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    Quote Originally Posted by Victor View Post
    The universe is not designed and it is not designed for us.

    And yet the universe is so extraordinary it is beyond even our imagination.
    You must have just watched my video about the Meat Planet on the science forum!
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    Quote Originally Posted by mal12345 View Post
    Dreams about illusions?
    Dreams are often not based on actual experiences.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nebbykoo View Post
    Dreams are often not based on actual experiences.
    Not actual experiences, but everything has an objective origin, and everything is located in a dream space/time matrix.
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    I wrote the above while in a hurry. What that means is that you could not have a dream about a six-legged giraffe without the concepts of 6, of legs, and of giraffes which you got from objective, non-dream reality.
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    Have you ever thought of it in terms of Hinduism? In their eyes, everything that is on Earth is really just a part of their supreme Hindu god. We are, essentially, their god's dreams.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sleepy View Post
    But. Isn't the universe in our imagination? How can it then be beyond it?
    There's what we know, and what we don't know. And there's what we know we don't know, and what we don't know what we don't know.

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    The universe seems to be an endless learning experience for man, which makes sense, we are curious creatures, we are always looking for that next frontier, and the universe seems to scale larger and larger as our knowledge and curiosity grow.

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    hmmm... "The universe is not designed and it is not designed for us" is an interesting statement because it actually opposes both of the two mainstream views as far as I can see. (While at the same time making it look as though the two 'opposing' views are lumped together.) Anyway, it is very counter-intuitive for humans to reject those views. I'm not smart enough to be able to discern one way or the other. To think that everything was random and could possibly just do away with itself on it's own- (without mercy) is very disheartening.
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    Quote Originally Posted by shortnsweet View Post
    hmmm... "The universe is not designed and it is not designed for us" is an interesting statement because it actually opposes both of the two mainstream views as far as I can see. (While at the same time making it look as though the two 'opposing' views are lumped together.) Anyway, it is very counter-intuitive for humans to reject those views. I'm not smart enough to be able to discern one way or the other. To think that everything was random and could possibly just do away with itself on it's own- (without mercy) is very disheartening.
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    As my heart first started to beat, I looked around my universe and found another warm heart beating above me. This larger heart created and loved and cared for me.

    So when I was born, I looked around my new universe for a large, warm heart that created me and cared for me. And I saw a picture of the sacred heart of Jesus, and it all made sense. Just as my universe in the womb was animated by a large, warm beating heart, so the universe outside the womb was also animated by a large, warm beating heart.

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