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    Default Neutrinos measured traveling faster than light!

    Scientists at CERN have announced they have measured neutrinos traveling faster than the speed of light, if this is confirmed by other scientists, it will have truly enormous implications for science and maybe society too. Things like sending information into the past and extra dimensions might be possible, this is a once in a century discovery(and that's why alot of other scientist remain skeptical). They measured the neutrinos traveling about 60 nanoseconds faster than light(with a margin of error of 10 nanoseconds).
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    These physicists are too optimistic regarding their margin of error.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Robopop View Post
    Scientists at CERN have announced they have measured neutrinos traveling faster than the speed of light, if this is confirmed by other scientists, it will have truly enormous implications for science and maybe society too. Things like sending information into the past and extra dimensions might be possible, this is a once in a century discovery(and that's why alot of other scientist remain skeptical). They measured the neutrinos traveling about 60 nanoseconds faster than light(with a margin of error of 10 nanoseconds).
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    Quote Originally Posted by shortnsweet View Post
    Shortnsweets all over the forum remain skepitcal, despite the mind-blowing evidence.
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    There are other shortnsweets in other-dimension type c's waiting for answers.
    http://news.sciencemag.org/scienceno...-than-lig.html

    If you're interested in science news updates, you can always subscribe to ScienceNow on facebook. SingularityHub is also a good one, perhaps better.
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    This is promising. I'm excited to see what this means if it pans out. I imagine the value would be more about our understanding of how the world works as opposed to some specific application of FTL neutrinos.

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    The big question is whether OPERA researchers have discovered particles going faster than light, or whether they have been misled by an unidentified "systematic error" in their experiment that's making the time look artificially short. Chang Kee Jung, a neutrino physicist at Stony Brook University in New York, says he'd wager that the result is the product of a systematic error. "I wouldn't bet my wife and kids because they'd get mad," he says. "But I'd bet my house."

    Jung, who is U.S. spokesperson for a similar experiment in Japan called T2K, says the tricky part is accurately measuring the time between when the neutrinos are born by slamming a burst of protons into a solid target and when they actually reach the detector. That timing relies on the global positioning system, and the GPS measurements can have uncertainties of tens of nanoseconds. "I would be very interested in how they got a 10-nanosecond uncertainty, because from the systematics of GPS and the electronics, I think that's a very hard number to get."

    No previous measurements obviously rule out the result, says Kostelecky, who has spent 25 years developing a theory, called the standard model extension, that accounts for all possible types of violations of special relativity in the context of particle physics. "If you had told me that there was a claim of faster-than-light electrons, I would be a lot more skeptical," he says. The possibilities for neutrinos are less constrained by previous measurements, he says.
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    By the way, a nanosecond is 1 billionth of a second. A margin of error of 10 billionths of a second is practically God-like in its degree of certainty. And that is the equivalent of unbelievable.
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    More proof that Tesla was a time traveler.
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    Neutrons, neutrinos, what's the difference anyway??
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    Quote Originally Posted by mal12345 View Post
    Neutrons, neutrinos, what's the difference anyway??
    I think the bigger deal was particles going faster than the speed of light. Neutrons/Neutrinos is just a coincidence. In fact Im pretty sure the whole thing is a coincidence, it just happens to be an amusing one.
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