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    Quote Originally Posted by Critical Hit View Post
    I think the bigger deal was particles going faster than the speed of light. Neutrons/Neutrinos is just a coincidence. In fact Im pretty sure the whole thing is a coincidence, it just happens to be an amusing one.
    Faster than the speed of light - relative to an observer's framework, you mean. Otherwise, time and space measurements don't apply to quantum particles.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mal12345 View Post
    By the way, a nanosecond is 1 billionth of a second. A margin of error of 10 billionths of a second is practically God-like in its degree of certainty. And that is the equivalent of unbelievable.
    Yeppers, 60 nanoseconds increase over a 500 mile course means that, in a horse race with a photon, the neutrino reached the finish-line 59 inches ahead of the bright one.

    Quote Originally Posted by mal12345 View Post
    Neutrons, neutrinos, what's the difference anyway??
    Neutrino means: Little Neutron.

    Electrons and Neutrinos are little fellas compared to Neutrons and Protons. (marbles -vs- basketballs)

    Neutrons and Protons are made up of triplets of UP and DOWN Quarks.

    Neutron: 2D+1U
    Proton: 1D+2U

    In Beta Decay, a Neutron becomes a Proton by converting an DOWN Quark into an UP, and in doing so, it emits an Electron and a Neutrino.
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    Quote Originally Posted by OrionzRevenge View Post
    Yeppers, 60 nanoseconds increase over a 500 mile course means that, in a horse race with a photon, the neutrino reached the finish-line 59 inches ahead of the bright one.



    Neutrino means: Little Neutron.

    Electrons and Neutrinos are little fellas compared to Neutrons and Protons. (marbles -vs- basketballs)

    Neutrons and Protons are made up of triplets of UP and DOWN Quarks.

    Neutron: 2D+1U
    Proton: 1D+2U

    In Beta Decay, a Neutron becomes a Proton by converting an DOWN Quark into an UP, and in doing so, it emits an Electron and a Neutrino.
    Nice job - dropping the context of my question. The Tesla quote mentioned neutrons instead of neutrinos.

    I'm really more interested in the philosophy of QM, what kind of philosophy can be derived from QM, and how its findings may alter our notions of time and space.
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    I hope they're under arrest for speeding, they cant be above the law.

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    Quote Originally Posted by aphrodite-gone-awry View Post
    Energy is made of something. And it isn't light.
    And then what is that something made of?
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    Quote Originally Posted by mal12345 View Post
    Nice job - dropping the context of my question. The Tesla quote mentioned neutrons instead of neutrinos.

    I'm really more interested in the philosophy of QM, what kind of philosophy can be derived from QM, and how its findings may alter our notions of time and space.
    LOL, Relax your sphincter a little bit huh?
    I was answering your rhetorical snark so that the less scientifically-minded would 'get-it': Tesla is no latter-day prophet.

    If true, How will this impact our understanding of Space/Time?
    The same way it will impact our understanding of Mass/Energy.
    ...and by this I mean a foundational paradigm shift no less shattering than Einstein's destruction of Newtonian Physics.

    Thus, most have had a knee jerk reaction that it must be in error somehow.

    But the thing is, those guys at CERN are top-shelf and know their rep is on the line with this announcement. They have spent months re-dotting the Is and re-crossing the Ts before announcing.

    The Jury is gonna be out until the Americans and Japanese confirm/dispute the findings, but if I were a theoretical physicist I'd be welded to the chalk-board right now.
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    Quote Originally Posted by OrionzRevenge View Post
    LOL, Relax your sphincter a little bit huh?
    I will if you will.
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    Quote Originally Posted by aphrodite-gone-awry View Post
    Energy is made of something. And it isn't light.
    When sunlight warms your face....is it magic?

    Quote Originally Posted by mal12345 View Post
    I will if you will.
    LOL, Dung Detente!
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    Neutrinos cited for speeding.

    Those guys were on TMNT's I hated them, they were draft dodgers from Dimension X.

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