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    Default Science 'confirms' the obvious!

    This is actually from a few years back, but you might not have seen it, so..

    Science Confirms the Obvious!
    We unearth the latest research that definitely, positively proves what you knew already-and tell you why it matters


    http://www.popsci.com/scitech/articl...nfirms-obvious

    Of course, to a scientist, nothing is deemed obvious enough to overlook a good experiment... Like (dis)proving that kids actually like Santa.

    Is there anything else 'obvious' that would be fun/funny to investigate?

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    Gosh, we knew it all along.

    The blindingly obvious is blinding. We are blind to what is obvious. We can't see what is under our noses until it is pointed out to us, and then it is obvious. It is so obvious it is as obvious as the sky is blue or water is wet. But how blind we are to the obvious until it is pointed out to us, then, gosh, we knew it all along.

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    Yeah I'm a little hesitant to call all these obvious. A lot of those studied subjects have been clouded by marketing in the past. For one the last page has some. I'm more fascinated by the writer's style.

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    There are plenty of things that seem "obvious" but turn out to be wrong, so I don't fault the scientists.

    The point about quantifying "obvious" effects should not be lost either. Knowing how strongly things are pulled towards the Earth allows for profoundly different thinking than just knowing that things are pulled towards the Earth.

    What I really consider junk science are the procedurally lacking experiments that reinforce stereotypes, or feed particular prejudices. Essentially, the search for correlations to support a particular world view.

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    The obvious is that which needs the most experimentation to determine whether or not it really is as obvious as it seems. In many cases, such was not the case: it was obvious that sickness was caused by miasma, and it was equally obvious that handwashing was a ridiculous practice for crank physicians. It was obvious that the sun revolved around the Earth, not the other way around. It was obvious that humans could never create a computer with 1 MB of RAM smaller than a city block. It was obvious that smoking marijuana caused cancer or death. It was obvious that cigarettes were harmless.

    Obviousness needs to be taken apart, analyzed critically, and put back together to determine whether obviousness is truly as obvious as we have declared it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Slayer View Post
    Obviousness needs to be taken apart, analyzed critically, and put back together to determine whether obviousness is truly as obvious as we have declared it.
    Spoken like a true INTP.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Catbert View Post
    Spoken like a true INTP.
    Well, it's the truth.
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    Obviously.

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    "common sense" is the antithesis to science. Particularly psychology. There's a rant in there, but I can't be fucked.

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    Well it would be, if "common sense" was ever used in a non-ironic way.

    Quote Originally Posted by Hopelandic View Post
    There's a rant in there, but I can't be fucked.
    On the other hand, it's always fun being a sceptic of pop-psychology on a typology forum.

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