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    In discussions about MBTI types it has been suggested that the internet attracts more iNtuitives because it is abstract by nature. How is it abstract? How is it different from reading a book or writing a letter? Isn't it simply a medium for transferring text, but also has the capabilities for images and sound? Text is abstract in a way common to humanity, not in a way that delineates cognitive functions, right? I would suggest that the internet is rather concrete. Every aspect of it can be explained in definable terms. It is a communication medium that has missing information. Real world communication contains more sensory data, but internet communication seems to be a subset of a concrete exchange rather than a particularly iNtuitive replacement. What do you think?
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    The internet engages almost only my mind, so I'd say it's definitely intuitive, as far as I'm concerned anyway. Pretty much no stimulation/use of the 5 senses at all. Well, except for vision of course, but even then, reading text is not what I'd call "stimulating" :rolli:

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    How many books does an N read a year? How many do Ss read?


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    The Internet comes across as impersonal. You are not seeing someone face to face. It's a disconnected method of communication. Anything beyond that has to be imagined. Any resonance has to be created and amplified within the end user, it doesn't convey otherwise.

    I think Intuitives find it easier to create the virtual reality inside their head of a particular communication, viewing it as they would a tangible real-life connection. They make the Internet more than what it actually is because of the perceptions they bring to the table. Sensors are more apt to view the Internet in terms of its practical application in the world around them and not use it as a simulacrum of reality through which people can connect to the same extent or even more deeply than in real life.

    It's the same with any technology. Sensors tend to see something for what it is and how it can be used in line with that perception. Intuitives tend to "add things" to the perception, so it is no longer just "what it is" but is "larger than life." The Internet is a tool that they can easily use to create a simulacrum of some other reality in their own heads.

    Quote Originally Posted by ptgatsby View Post
    How many books does an N read a year? How many do Ss read?
    What sort of books? *suspicious*
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jennifer View Post
    It's the same with any technology. Sensors tend to see something for what it is and how it can be used in line with that perception. Intuitives tend to "add things" to the perception, so it is no longer just "what it is" but is "larger than life." The Internet is a tool that they can easily use to create a simulacrum of some other reality in their own heads.
    So the internet is a catalyst for iNtuition. I would still suggest that it is comparable to books, letters, and other text mediums. As a medium it is useful for all, the difference is in how it is used - like the "what type of books" question.

    I guess when I think of iNtuition, I think of conceptual challenges found in philosophy, the inner workings of the mind, and other theoretical endeavors. The internet doesn't inherently contain these perceptual challenges. It's all easily explained. It is true the iNtuitive can bring their imagination to the table. I guess when I'm online I try to reign in the imagination to minimize assumptions, so that the truth of the person has a chance to come through. I think some people can project past experience onto new scenarios when pieces are missing in the same way another person can project an imagined scenario.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jennifer View Post
    What sort of books? *suspicious*
    I'm just pointing out the reasoning flaw - the presumption is that Ss and Ns read the same amount (as in, Ss should spend the same amount of time online as Ns, based upon the acts of reading and writing). There is a rather large gap between Ns and Ss - not in what they read, but in how much. Interestingly enough, the Ss that break that mold followed the same pattern I did - to escape. It fits in with a couple of S friends that also read gigantic amounts.

    And both of us use the net a hell of a lot. There is likely a connection between information processing and the amount of time used on books and interenet usage.

    Since I've evolved into dealing with "real life", I no longer spend as much time on either - I can't say the same for the average "N" I know.

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    Abstract by nature?

    *snaps and moves neck side to side*

    No. Teeny-boppers who surf the web for Britney Spears gossip are not enjoying the it for its abstract nature, whatever the fuck that actually means.

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    There's nothing abstract about the internet as a whole. There are regions of the net that appeal to different types, social networking for Es, star trek trivia boards for nerds, etc. The old internet may have been more NT back when you actually had to know a bit about computers in order to get online or even know that the net existed. Now, as far as people who live on the internet rather than use it I don't think you can really put a type on them, probably more IXTXs than anything else. I don't want to be where I am so I spend my time dicking around on the internet. I imagine it's the same for other net dwelling troglodytes.


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    I think internet usage skews along demographics. You simply don't use the internet that much if you still have dial-up or limited access to a computer. Also older people (regardless of S or N preference) probably don't use it as much as younger people who are more familiar with it. Even the nature of your work (cube dweller vs. emergency medical technician vs. unemployed) and amount of leisure time (kids, marital status, etc.) may dictate how much time you spend on the internet.

    In fact today I got a request at work from someone I estimate to be in their 50s asking for hard copies of information that is readily available online simply because they don't like the internet (that's what they said in their letter!)

    Like Sassa said, the internet is so vast that any type can find a niche and have frequent use. My piddly research on internet usage and personality type seems to point to introverts being more common that extroverts, men more common than women (although that's changing), and some connections between internet usage and depression. If most of your sites of interest (like psychology forums) tend to attract other intuitive types then it may seem like more intuitives inhabit the virtual universe but it may not be the case across the board.
    Relationships have normal ebbs and flows. They do not automatically get better and better when the participants learn more and more about each other. Instead, the participants have to work through the tensions of the relationship (the dialectic) while they learn and group themselves and a parties in a relationships. At times the relationships is very open and sharing. Other time, one or both parties to the relationship need their space, or have other concerns, and the relationship is less open. The theory posits that these cycles occur throughout the life of the relationship as the persons try to balance their needs for privacy and open relationship.
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    Quote Originally Posted by sassafrassquatch View Post

    I guess porn must be Atlantis or the map wasn't big enough.
    Relationships have normal ebbs and flows. They do not automatically get better and better when the participants learn more and more about each other. Instead, the participants have to work through the tensions of the relationship (the dialectic) while they learn and group themselves and a parties in a relationships. At times the relationships is very open and sharing. Other time, one or both parties to the relationship need their space, or have other concerns, and the relationship is less open. The theory posits that these cycles occur throughout the life of the relationship as the persons try to balance their needs for privacy and open relationship.
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