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    Quote Originally Posted by toonia View Post
    In discussions about MBTI types it has been suggested that the internet attracts more iNtuitives because it is abstract by nature. How is it abstract? How is it different from reading a book or writing a letter? Isn't it simply a medium for transferring text, but also has the capabilities for images and sound? Text is abstract in a way common to humanity, not in a way that delineates cognitive functions, right? I would suggest that the internet is rather concrete. Every aspect of it can be explained in definable terms. It is a communication medium that has missing information. Real world communication contains more sensory data, but internet communication seems to be a subset of a concrete exchange rather than a particularly iNtuitive replacement. What do you think?
    Books have typically been more on the abstract side in ways... because you have to mentally translate words on a page into ideas and pictures. The Internet tends towards more abstraction because you have to think of links leading from one page to another, the back button leading back, etc. To do much more than look things up, you have to have a certain amount of knowledge of technical terms (or at least you used to).

    Of course, I've used the Internet for a long time, and there's a still part of me that thinks that anyone who doesn't know how to configure and troubleshoot a computer has no business using one. So it's been hard for me to adjust to people who expect ease of use and to have things explained in more concrete/common terminology. So I apologize in advance if I occasionally come across as condescending towards people who struggle with technology. Bad habit I picked up from the earlier days and technical forums.

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    Quote Originally Posted by proteanmix View Post
    I guess porn must be Atlantis or the map wasn't big enough.
    It's a map of internet communities, pr0n wouldn't be on there.

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    Without the internet, I would probably be a neurotic INFP (that is to say my Fi would be out of control and my Te would be comatose), because the internet has not only allowed for me to express myself.. but to be corrected, and understood, and shown the way of rational thought. In real life, there just aren't opportunities for that. Given that, I can clearly understand how the internet attracts iNtuitives, who are naturals at detecting relationships between concepts and meanings. They appreciate the opportunity for meaningful interaction, which thrives on the internet.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dana View Post
    Without the internet, I would probably be a neurotic INFP (that is to say my Fi would be out of control and my Te would be comatose), because the internet has not only allowed for me to express myself.. but to be corrected, and understood, and shown the way of rational thought. In real life, there just aren't opportunities for that. Given that, I can clearly understand how the internet attracts iNtuitives, who are naturals at detecting relationships between concepts and meanings. They appreciate the opportunity for meaningful interaction, which thrives on the internet.
    Oh, definitely. I agree. I shudder to imagine what some of my first posts (before I started communicating on the internet regularly) looked like on other boards. So full of paranoia, xenophobia, veiled criticism, and partisan views. *shivers*

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dana View Post
    Without the internet, I would probably be a neurotic INFP (that is to say my Fi would be out of control and my Te would be comatose), because the internet has not only allowed for me to express myself.. but to be corrected, and understood, and shown the way of rational thought. In real life, there just aren't opportunities for that. Given that, I can clearly understand how the internet attracts iNtuitives, who are naturals at detecting relationships between concepts and meanings. They appreciate the opportunity for meaningful interaction, which thrives on the internet.
    Quote Originally Posted by athenian200 View Post
    Oh, definitely. I agree. I shudder to imagine what some of my first posts (before I started communicating on the internet regularly) looked like on other boards. So full of paranoia, xenophobia, veiled criticism, and partisan views.
    You guys sound like meaningful communication is rare outside of the internet.
    Relationships have normal ebbs and flows. They do not automatically get better and better when the participants learn more and more about each other. Instead, the participants have to work through the tensions of the relationship (the dialectic) while they learn and group themselves and a parties in a relationships. At times the relationships is very open and sharing. Other time, one or both parties to the relationship need their space, or have other concerns, and the relationship is less open. The theory posits that these cycles occur throughout the life of the relationship as the persons try to balance their needs for privacy and open relationship.
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    Quote Originally Posted by proteanmix View Post
    You guys sound like meaningful communication is rare outside of the internet.
    Not for Extraverts. Sometimes I envy that... For shy introverts who don't put forth as much of an effort or have the same energy, it's easy to get into a pattern of avoiding (or minimally interacting with) people aside from bank tellers, bosses, teachers, etc. to such an extent in the real world that we become shut-in and slightly neurotic. That's why "Introvert" used to have such negative connotations. It used to be a much bigger advantage to be an Extravert before more distant kinds of communications became common, because Introverts would often be so isolated that they'd be slightly insane. Modern society has made it easier for Introverts to stay healthy psychologically.

    We'd probably find meaningful conversation if we weren't so cautious and low-energy, and didn't want to spend most of our time alone.

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    Quote Originally Posted by proteanmix View Post
    You guys sound like meaningful communication is rare outside of the internet.
    It is very rare either way.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dana View Post
    It is very rare either way.
    I definitely agree with that.
    Relationships have normal ebbs and flows. They do not automatically get better and better when the participants learn more and more about each other. Instead, the participants have to work through the tensions of the relationship (the dialectic) while they learn and group themselves and a parties in a relationships. At times the relationships is very open and sharing. Other time, one or both parties to the relationship need their space, or have other concerns, and the relationship is less open. The theory posits that these cycles occur throughout the life of the relationship as the persons try to balance their needs for privacy and open relationship.
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    Quote Originally Posted by proteanmix View Post
    I definitely agree with that.
    Even for you? I guess I was wrong about meaningful conversation being more plentiful if you had more energy to seek it. I guess that's something we all have in common.

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