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    We have to keep in mind that there are major threats to our progress like depleting resources, peak oil, global terrorism and unexpected threats(comet impact, gamma ray burst, climate changes). All of these problems need to be solved or handled competently if we are to survive as a species.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Robopop View Post
    I think the only informed people that would be totally against this homotechno transformation would be the neo-luddites and technophobes.
    This is incredibly presumptuous of you to say.
    I am neither a Luddite nor a technophobe and I assure you, I am Informed.

    Read my earlier post. Intuitively I just know that whatever technology in this respect that becomes available will not be for all.. but for those who can afford it.
    It is being developed with one goal, and that is to make money.
    It will be purchased by those who already harbor feelings of elitism.

    You are wrong.. I am not a technophobe at all.. I am a human-phobe

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    Quote Originally Posted by Arclight View Post
    This is incredibly presumptuous of you to say.
    I am neither a Luddite nor a technophobe and I assure you, I am Informed.

    Read my earlier post. Intuitively I just know that whatever technology in this respect that becomes available will not be for all.. but for those who can afford it.
    It is being developed with one goal, and that is to make money.
    It will be purchased by those who already harbor feelings of elitism.

    You are wrong.. I am not a technophobe at all.. I am a human-phobe
    You can be against this particular concept of technology(man merging with machine) but not be a against all other technological progress, so you are right, I should not have said that informed people who are against this idea of merging man and machine are neo-luddites or technophobes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Arclight View Post
    I am neither a Luddite nor a technophobe and I assure you, I am Informed.
    You are wrong.. I am not a technophobe at all.. I am a human-phobe
    I didn't want to personally insult you and call you a luddite or technophobe. I am wrong for lumping luddites/technophobes who are generally against all technological progress with people with are against this particular technology( man merging with machine).

    But we are already upgrading technology to advance humans, I know the very wealthy can get it first, but eventually, can't the technology become readily available when it gets cheaper.

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    I can imagine in the future for those artificial eyes will probably have a "word from our sponsors" advertisement before you go back seeing your environment.



    Where the technology goes, the market goes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Robopop View Post
    Have you ever heard of Ray Kurzweil, he is an inventor and futurist who proposes that our society will reach a technological singularity by 2029. He proposes the idea that technological progress is exponential instead of the more "intuitive" linear view most people have of future progress, but he has his critics too.

    I think the only informed people that would be totally against this homotechno transformation would be the neo-luddites and technophobes.
    Yea I have read it (The Singularity is Near). Most of his ideas are ahead of his time. But most people I think are still against biological and machine integration, as it would make them less than 100% pure human.
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    In general I'm against implanting technology into my body for anything other than artificial prosthesis or other medical purposes. Call me old fashioned.

    However, I would be interested in some sort of neuro-interface technology as an alternate i/o device to other technologies because the current technology in that respect is still rather round-about and inefficient.
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    Quote Originally Posted by cloud View Post
    Do you support implanting machine parts into the human body to improve our abilities and performance, or do you oppose it? Would this move us more and more towards the Borg and less human?
    Yesss, I seriously hope I live to see the day when humans can become part cyborg. =)

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    I found Ghost in the Shell quite an interesting take on what could happen.
    That show is my dream world.

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    I can't wait until we have fully realistic virtual reality.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Robopop View Post
    I can't wait until we have fully realistic virtual reality.
    A la shadowrun? XD

    Keep in mind that there can be ALOT of problems with such too... as shadowrun also shows >.>

    Alright so I'm using a fantasy/sci-fi series to explain, but it does give a good idea of alot of the issues that may be faced, so a little backstory for those unfamiliar.



    In shadowrun, the internet ends up crashing due to several reasons, which aren't really important. Whot happens though, is they update the material infrastructure to be dedicated purely for online interfacing, much, much faster, and so on. This new internet is dubbed the matrix (long before the matrix movies were out, by about 20 years )

    The matrix allows people to browse via an avatar; information is stored in a 3D space with representations of everything. So for example, a nordic based company may store their sensitive information in a 'castle', or dungeon keep, with their anti-virus software appearing as mythological figures, such as Fenrir.

    If one were to hack into the site, then the programmer would create tools which are fitting for their avatar usually; to break the ICE - Intrusion Countermeasures, yeur avatar may end up swinging a sword at these fenris wolves, but the programming going on in the background is essentially that the antivirus software is attempting to delete, remove, or isolate the attacking program, whereas the attacking program is adapting and changing to meet the challenge presented to it. So it may LOOK like a sword fight against a mythological creature, it's just program code adapting to compete with each other.

    In a fully immersive virtual reality world, that's whot yeu could probably expect, honestly.

    Now... there's problems with this. Particularly high end expensive and powerful ICE could kill the user or leave them braindead if they get in a fight with it. People often have implants, such as a HUD built right into their brain so they can see stuff like the time on command. Often these implants are connected to the matrix in some way shape or form, and this can lead to people actually hacking into yeur brain.

    There's issues with viruses, and then there's the 'drug' matter... when yeur brain becomes capable of accepting whot's essentially USB flash drives to just slot right into the brain to give yeu information... how long do yeu think it'll be before someone comes up with a way to slot in 'happy' thoughts and essentially program yeur brain to be 'high'?

    There's all sorts of nasty things that can go wrong, and the last thing yeu want is to have yeur brain get a computer virus, because "rebooting" may not be an option ;_;

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