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    Quote Originally Posted by CzeCze View Post
    Only a third???

    It blew my mind a little that if you carry a daughter you are also carrying your grandchildren. Meaning women are born with all our eggs, they get made while we're getting made in the womb. Deep.
    I don't know. More and more women are having babies closer to 40 - healthy babies. I wonder if we've learned so much about maintaining health that this whole thing about having kids when you're younger is a crock of shit. Really.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lets eat pie View Post
    I was thinking that maybe a woman radically changes her lifestyle later in life. What genes would be turned on/off because of this lifestyle change and would they be passed on to the child if the baby is conceived before or after the mother's lifestyle change?
    I would honestly think that many women in their thirties have healthier lifestyles than women in their teens and twenties who might be partying more, drinking more, taking drugs, getting less sleep, etc. All of that plays into reproductive health, I know.

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    Quote Originally Posted by marmalade.sunrise View Post
    I don't know. More and more women are having babies closer to 40 - healthy babies. I wonder if we've learned so much about maintaining health that this whole thing about having kids when you're younger is a crock of shit. Really.
    Have you talked to many of these women? Most women I know who have their first babies in their late 30's and into their 40's end up having a lot of trouble. It's not across the board, but it is very, very common to have trouble when you wait that long.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aurel View Post
    Have you talked to many of these women? Most women I know who have their first babies in their late 30's and into their 40's end up having a lot of trouble. It's not across the board, but it is very, very common to have trouble when you wait that long.
    I know a woman who had three kids in her late thirties. She and her husband waited because they wanted stability. She didn't have any problems that I'm aware of. I know a woman who is 24 who can't get pregnant because of obesity-related health issues. I think it's all relative.

    I will agree though that waiting until past 40 is pushing it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by marmalade.sunrise View Post
    I don't know. More and more women are having babies closer to 40 - healthy babies. I wonder if we've learned so much about maintaining health that this whole thing about having kids when you're younger is a crock of shit. Really.
    To some degree I think you're right; Taking care of your health does help a lot. But I think the age issue has more to with the eggs sitting around too long.

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    Exactly. It's biological, not some plot to keep women having babies in their 20's.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Forever_Jung View Post
    To some degree I think you're right; Taking care of your health does help a lot. But I think the age issue has more to with the eggs sitting around too long.
    Not to mention that the eggs are (can be) damaged by what the woman has done to her body, and there are the environmental factors up until that point as well.

    So yes, a woman may be at a healthier point physically in her late 30's than in her twenties, but the damaged sustained in her twenties would still be there in her eggs.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Forever_Jung View Post
    To some degree I think you're right; Taking care of your health does help a lot. But I think the age issue has more to with the eggs sitting around too long.
    Yeah, the older you get, the less stable the DNA is in the eggs, which is why older mothers are more likely to have children with chromosomal problems.

    There seems to be a lot of promising research about the role antioxidants play in protecting the egg DNA from free radicals. Also, a lot of people swear by royal jelly (a bee product) for increasing egg health. Sounds like an old wives' tale (literally), but even IVF doctors recommend royal jelly in the months leading up to the procedure.

    I'm 29 myself. I got the baby urge at 25, which I soothed by getting a cat. But now my biological clock is almost audible...

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    Pregnancy in the 20’s

    Women in their twenties have a good chance of becoming pregnant as a result of a relatively greater number of eggs in their ovaries. Additionally, a larger percentage of those eggs are normal genetically. Since a woman is born with all of the eggs that they will have in their lifetime, the older she gets the fewer eggs are left. In addition, as women age the percentage of genetically normal eggs remaining decreases. This is why women have a decreasing fertility rate, increased miscarriage rate and increased chance of birth defects like Down syndrome as they age.

    The pregnancy rate per month of a woman in her 20’s is about 20-25%. The spontaneous miscarriage rate is only about 5-10% and the incidence of a genetic abnormality like Down syndrome is about 1/1200.

    Pregnancy in the early 30’s

    Women in their thirties will experience a decline in their fertility such that the fertility rate per month is about 15%. The risk of miscarriage at thirty is about 20%. It is important for all women contemplating pregnancy to start prenatal vitamins at least one month prior to starting to try to become pregnant since there is evidence that extra folic acid prior to pregnancy decrease the incidence of certain types of birth defects. There is also some data suggesting that there is benefit to taking extra omega 3 fatty acid supplements during pregnancy as well.

    Pregnancy over Age 35 and Related Risks

    A number of different problems characterize the ability to achieve pregnancy over 35. There is a noticeable decline in the fertility rate starting at age 35 to a level of about 10% per month. The pregnancy risk over 35 is higher as well as evidenced an increase in the miscarriage rate and the incidence of genetic abnormality in pregnancy. At 35, the miscarriage rate is 25% and the risk of Down syndrome becomes about 1/350.

    Pregnancy over 40 and Related Risks

    There is a sharp decline in a woman’s ability to achieve pregnancy over age forty. The fertility rate per month is only about 5% and even with in Vitro Fertilization (IVF), the most successful infertility treatment available, the pregnancy rate is only about 10% per try. This is due to the greatly reduced number of normal eggs remaining in the ovaries of a woman over forty. Estimates from embryo biopsy reveal that at least 90% of a woman’s eggs are genetically abnormal when a woman is over 40. This explains the increased pregnancy risk over 40. The miscarriage rate is 33% at age 40. Genetically abnormal pregnancies are more common as well with an incidence of 1/38 at age 40. As women get older the risks of medical conditions complicating pregnancy increase. Complications of pregnancy that increase with age include elevated blood pressure, gestational diabetes, premature labor and bleeding disorders such as placental abruption.

    Pregnancy over 45 and Related Risks

    Pregnancy over 45 is a very difficult proposition. Women over 45 have less than a 1% chance of getting pregnant using their own eggs. This is because virtually all of their remaining eggs are genetically abnormal. Successful pregnancy over 45 is therefore nearly always the result of egg donation. Many high profile women who have become pregnant in their forties, especially after the age of 45 did so with the help of donor eggs. The pregnancy risk over 45 is also increased. In the unlikely event that a woman over 45 becomes pregnant with her own eggs, the pregnancy risk over 45 results in a miscarriage rate of at least 50% and the incidence of a genetically abnormal pregnancy of 1 in 12. There is also a significantly higher risk of maternal and fetal mortality with pregnancy over 45 compared to younger women. It is especially important to make sure that a woman’s body is able to tolerate the stresses that pregnancy places on it prior to becoming pregnant. This means that a woman should be checked for problems like high blood pressure, heart disease and diabetes before trying to become pregnant.
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