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    Quote Originally Posted by metaphours View Post
    I think the moon landing was pretty bitchin (aka a pretty great achievement), but they should've done more, they just left it hanging like a dead high 5, which rendered it almost pretty much utterly pointless. I mean really, if the Apollo 11 moon landing didn't happen, would society be the same as it is today? Yes, most definitely.

    On a footnote, the international space station is the most useless thing in the universe.
    Ok. Let me ask you this question:

    Where's the next stop after the moon to explore in Space Exploration?
    Mars.

    How far away is Mars from the earth?
    Oh, only about 35 Million Miles. But at it's farthest, it can be up to 250 Millions Miles away.

    How far away is the Moon?
    252,000 Miles away.

    We've already been looking into Mars, sending robots to explore a fraction of it's surface. We've taken pictures from distant parts of this galaxy, which is probably about the best we can do for now.

    Think about it.
    Is it that by its indefiniteness it shadows forth the heartless voids and immensities of the universe, and thus stabs us from behind with the thought of annihilation, when beholding the white depths of the milky way?

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    Quote Originally Posted by OneWithSoul View Post
    Ok. Let me ask you this question:

    Where's the next stop after the moon to explore in Space Exploration?
    Mars.

    How far away is Mars from the earth?
    Oh, only about 35 Million Miles. But at it's farthest, it can be up to 250 Millions Miles away.

    How far away is the Moon?
    252,000 Miles away.

    We've already been looking into Mars, sending robots to explore a fraction of it's surface. We've taken pictures from distant parts of this galaxy, which is probably about the best we can do for now.

    Think about it.
    Yeah i know man, but we should have set up like a station up on the moon years ago. Instead they just went back to Earth and now they're talking about going back again. That's 40 years that have gone by that could've been spent furthering our studies on the Moon and understanding how it is to live off the Earth. I believe that if we had set up research stations on the moon 40 years ago, we would be closer to getting to Mars now.

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    eh, i think if you went back and told any ancient from antiquity, even and especially the well educated like Plato or Confucious, that we would put human beings on a extraterrestrial body, they'd be pretty damn impressed, IF they didn't think you were full of shit.

    Its not "for humanity", its for our egos. We can do shit like that, hurrah. It also lets us know we are not restrained to our "eternal cradle"

    What's next/left? landing on and enventually terraforming the red planet or one of the moons of saturn or jupiter or w/e. Its pretty pointless to send anything out of our solar system if it can't excede c, so I wouldn't even seriously consider it. c may never be broken, and if it is, it wont happen anytime in our lives - sci fi junkies need to wake up to that one.

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    Quote Originally Posted by metaphours View Post
    Yeah i know man, but we should have set up like a station up on the moon years ago. Instead they just went back to Earth and now they're talking about going back again. That's 40 years that have gone by that could've been spent furthering our studies on the Moon and understanding how it is to live off the Earth. I believe that if we had set up research stations on the moon 40 years ago, we would be closer to getting to Mars now.
    I'll side with you on this one, my friend.

    I've found myself asking the same question, too. Why don't we go back? What's holding us from going back?

    But what we did 40 years ago is different from what we're doing today because there are different people in charge, different focuses, and money is a factor.

    But still, it does seem a little weird that we haven't gone back. The only way to go now is up, why aren't we?
    Is it that by its indefiniteness it shadows forth the heartless voids and immensities of the universe, and thus stabs us from behind with the thought of annihilation, when beholding the white depths of the milky way?

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    Quote Originally Posted by nozflubber View Post
    eh, i think if you went back and told any ancient from antiquity, even and especially the well educated like Plato or Confucious, that we would put human beings on a extraterrestrial body, they'd be pretty damn impressed, IF they didn't think you were full of shit.

    Its not "for humanity", its for our egos. We can do shit like that, hurrah. It also lets us know we are not restrained to our "eternal cradle"

    What's next/left? landing on and enventually terraforming the red planet or one of the moons of saturn or jupiter or w/e. Its pretty pointless to send anything out of our solar system if it can't excede c, so I wouldn't even seriously consider it. c may never be broken, and if it is, it wont happen anytime in our lives - sci fi junkies need to wake up to that one.
    + over 9 million

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    Quote Originally Posted by OneWithSoul View Post
    I'll side with you on this one, my friend.

    I've found myself asking the same question, too. Why don't we go back? What's holding us from going back?

    But what we did 40 years ago is different from what we're doing today because there are different people in charge, different focuses, and money is a factor.

    But still, it does seem a little weird that we haven't gone back. The only way to go now is up, why aren't we?
    exactly

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    There is a good documentary out there about a planned Mars mission, headed by Robert Zubrin where they talk about how the moon missions became a sort of reminder of how trivial some of our problems are. For example, people will say things like "if we can put a man on the moon, why can't we solve X social problem."

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    Quote Originally Posted by OneWithSoul View Post
    Why don't we go back? What's holding us from going back?
    We are, it is planned for 2020 I believe. They recently launched a rocket that will slam into the lunar surface and throw up the dust so they can test it for oxygen/water/hydrogen etc. for colonization. I think it launched in May.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alwar View Post
    We are, it is planned for 2020 I believe. They recently launched a rocket that will slam into the lunar surface and throw up the dust so they can test it for oxygen/water/hydrogen etc. for colonization. I think it launched in May.
    Really? I was being ignorant and refusing to find out anything via google

    I wonder why they're waiting until 2020, but I guess it is/will be extremely costly, and preparations must be perfect and intricately planned out. It's a good idea, too. If they can find O/H20/H etc. than we'll be light years closer to establishing life or something on Mars.
    Is it that by its indefiniteness it shadows forth the heartless voids and immensities of the universe, and thus stabs us from behind with the thought of annihilation, when beholding the white depths of the milky way?

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    Quote Originally Posted by OneWithSoul View Post
    I wonder why they're waiting until 2020, but I guess it is/will be extremely costly, and preparations must be perfect and intricately planned out.
    I don't think it is too costly, there are just a lot of engineering issues that need to be solved for semi-permanent colonization. Damnit, I was just reading an article on the rocket they launched and cannot recall the name of it to give you more info.

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