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    Unless your goal is to eventually be domesticated with the purpose of being eaten, I don't see how being tasty would be an advantage.

    Some animals have evolved the opposite way, they taste horrible, and this is so when a predator tries to eat them, they get spit out, and go on surviving.

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    You've got to admit there are advantages to being domesticated though. Guaranteed food sources, protection from disease, protection from other predators. The next generation continues to reap the benefits. It wouldn't be a bad life. Maybe a bit boring.
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    Quote Originally Posted by FireyPheonix View Post
    You've got to admit there are advantages to being domesticated though. Guaranteed food sources, protection from disease, protection from other predators. The next generation continues to reap the benefits. It wouldn't be a bad life. Maybe a bit boring.
    I guess it's not that bad. Unless you're veal.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Feops View Post
    Randomnity: Ah yes, this was the type of feedback/opinion I was hoping for. So basically you're saying that alterations to healthy muscle would likely impair the host more than any benefit given.
    Given the framework that's evolved thus far, yes, I believe so. Of course there's always room for exceptions (though I don't think any mammals have poisonous flesh, afaik), but I don't see it as a likely thing to evolve. More useful would be something that takes effect before being eaten, and ideally is secreted outside the skin - like the poisons you see with a lot of frogs.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Randomnity View Post
    Given the framework that's evolved thus far, yes, I believe so. Of course there's always room for exceptions (though I don't think any mammals have poisonous flesh, afaik), but I don't see it as a likely thing to evolve. More useful would be something that takes effect before being eaten, and ideally is secreted outside the skin - like the poisons you see with a lot of frogs.
    Poisons? Or delicious psychedelic drugs?

    Depends who you ask, I guess.

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    An interesting new concept: Survival of the Tastiest.

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    Beauty is in the eye of the beholder...
    And I could go in the 'evolutive' details and so on, but it appears to be so obvious I won't bother.
    You guys are hopeless, i swear.
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    You know, I got to thinking about this kind of thing but with strains of marijuana (go figure) - is it more beneficial for a strain of marijuana to have a high or low THC content? High content strains would be highly sought after, but also killed off and grazed sooner by police/harvesters respectively. A low THC content would have the opposite effects, making the low THC strain being able to have a more inconspicuous and indifferent presence....

    It might seem counterintuitive that a plant would develop a positive psychoactive chemical that when inhaled or ingested gives a euphoric effect, since this means the plant will be hunted after and exterminated. However, if these hunter/gatherers are also Farmers/planners, the presence of the psychoactive ingredient will facilitate the population growth. One of the prime reasons why marijuana gained so much THC content over the past decades is due to economics/ease of transportation (higher THC weed means you don't have as much to carry to yield the effects), the other is that there is a somewhat symbiotic relationship between this plant and human populations.

    I think part of the question of the strangeness in the OP And my example is to realize the primary characteristic of nature is "Symbiosis", even in the case when individual animals or plants become victims. If an animal were to have poisonous traits instead of ones beneficial to us, humans would taste these poisons then die. Said animal would NOT be harvested at all, merely killed of when it became an annoyance....

    In fact, having a quality or property that is likable to humans (it will have a good taste) is probably one of the best things an organism can have these days. Do you really think dogs would be as prevalent and as diverse if we had become extinct several thousand years ago? So strange to think of, just realize life is about connections, not linear regressions and mere prey vs predator relationships.

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    Oh god, do you people actually understand ANYTHING about evolution, and biology? Or simply LOGICS.

    I'm done with this thread.
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    Quote Originally Posted by nozflubber View Post
    In fact, having a quality or property that is likable to humans (it will have a good taste) is probably one of the best things an organism can have these days. Do you really think dogs would be as prevalent and as diverse if we had become extinct several thousand years ago? So strange to think of, just realize life is about connections, not linear regressions and mere prey vs predator relationships.
    Corn is a pretty good example of this. The stuff bends over backwards to adapt to human needs. Such a wonderful plant. It's fuel! It's bread! It's sugar! It's cooking oil! It's a hundred other things! It grows at absurd densities!


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