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Thread: Pattern to prime numbers?

02012009, 04:47 PM #11

02012009, 05:19 PM #12My wife and I made a game to teach kids about nutrition. Please try our game and vote for us to win. (Voting period: July 14  August 14)
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02012009, 06:16 PM #13

02012009, 07:02 PM #14
I think I might have found something interesting. I need a little more time, though, and I've only worked up until 200.

02012009, 08:30 PM #15
I always thought prime numbers were interesting. The question to me is asking us to detect the absence of a large number of things rather than the presence of one, which may be why we seem to not find an answer without testing the things aren't there. But if I walked outside and there were no million things there I would know pretty quickly. I wouldn't have to check for them all. That seems to me what we need to find. The perspective where we see the factors, rather than show the lack of them.
Still the order of primes is decided by the blanks in the multiplication tables. It's like you superimpose a heap of square waves and look for the zeroes. There is a lot of order in number systems, but it is normally due to the base you choose. ie. base 10 you can instantly see 2,3,5 as factors, as 10=2x5 (where you switch to next column), and 101=3^2 (where the digit sums step over, ie. 9 18, 27, 36). There's lots of interesting little patterns to find also, like all primes after 3 are 6n+1 (just because the odd number in between has a factor of 3, and even numbers obviously have a factor of 2). This can be extended up in the same form from memory as you get higher in the number system and more things get excluded ie. xn+c. None of these things ever seemed to improve the efficiency of finding primes in the end though. Still I'm up for exploring, even if we don't find anything useful in terms of primes, it'll help us get better at maths .Freude, schöner Götterfunken Tochter aus Elysium, Wir betreten feuertrunken, Himmlische, dein Heiligtum! Deine Zauber binden wieder Was die Mode streng geteilt; Alle Menschen werden Brüder, Wo dein sanfter Flügel weilt.

02012009, 08:32 PM #16
This sounds right:
Patterns in Prime Numbers
The different thing about primes is that there is no real pattern to their occurrence. They seem to appear randomly, however, we do know that all but two of them end in either 1, 3, 7, or 9. Other than that though, we have found no distinct pattern. This makes finding primes incredibly hard. If we knew they occurred every 24 number, they would be very easy to find. But, with their random appearances, each number has to be tested individually in order to determine if it is prime or not. Even with computers, this is a very grueling task. Recently, some progress has been made by graphing the prime numbers, but the patterns they form are very difficult to follow, and generating large primes with them would be difficult. Other, smaller patterns can be found in prime numbers, but eventually they terminate.
Some neat prime numbers that have patterns are 12345678901234567891. This is an ascending prime. Another neat pattern in primes is palindromic primes, and these read the same from front to back, such as 111191111, 919191919, and 123494321.

02032009, 07:04 PM #17

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What if there is no pattern due to the nature of division, the process through which you're puting them through? I require a thorough analysis of the nature of division (philosophically and mathematically) ASAP....
1st question to understanding division: dividng by 0 and by infinite. why is one null and the other zero (in most cases)? actually, how can it be that when we take an infinite series that should essentially be infinite divided by infinite, we can get a whole number?
This is troublesome.... maybe i'll work on redefining division while you guys check out the more heads on way

02032009, 08:20 PM #19My wife and I made a game to teach kids about nutrition. Please try our game and vote for us to win. (Voting period: July 14  August 14)
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02032009, 08:22 PM #20
I wrote a javascript to do primes. It would have been nice to have an easy pattern. Of course it wouldn't have been something to write javascript about then.
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