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    Quote Originally Posted by Sona View Post
    No thanks - I'll stick with the real science that's being written in journals.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sundowning View Post
    No thanks - I'll stick with the real science that's being written in journals.
    Agreed.
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    Quote Originally Posted by sundowning View Post
    No thanks - I'll stick with the real science that's being written in journals.
    LOL! you dismiss something without even looking at the evidence. Clearly, you have a biased agenda.

    OK, I'll lay down a challenge for you... Logically prove global warming creates major fluctuation's in global weather and that its man made carbon emission to blame for this....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sona View Post
    LOL! you dismiss something without even looking at the evidence. Clearly, you have a biased agenda.

    OK, I'll lay down a challenge for you... Logically prove global warming creates major fluctuation's in global weather and that its man made carbon emission to blame for this....
    Let me just go get a multi-million dollar research grant and I'll get right on it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sona View Post
    LOL! you dismiss something without even looking at the evidence. Clearly, you have a biased agenda.

    OK, I'll lay down a challenge for you... Logically prove global warming creates major fluctuation's in global weather and that its man made carbon emission to blame for this....
    How important is the part I bolded?

    For the nothing it's worth, I want to say I've been amazed at the lack of movement towards new energy sources since I was about 12. I had a lengthy discussion with my father a few weeks ago, and a fair amount was dedicated to current political happenings in the US. It took me quite a while, but I actually got him to see that my disgust with the Iraq war is that the money being spent there--in fact, a fraction of the money being spent there--could lead to so much more benefit if spent, instead, on funding important research, such as developing a new energy source.

    Worthless, but . . . eh.

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    I say fuck it, move to any mountain range and bring whatever space age agriculture stuff you can get your hands on. I suggest not sticking around Europe though, that situation is going to suck. Honestly, it is obvious this will be argued till the Netherlands and Florida are under water. The hype that we can really prevent this now is a bunch of politicians who don't understand what the scientists are telling them. The time for warming prevention has passed, it's time to start working on loss prevention.
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    Climate has fluctuated from hot to cold and vice versa since the beginning of time for no reason. I'm still not entirely convinced that global warming exists or that it's because of man-made gases in the atmosphere.

    If global warming does exist, I have an alternative theory. Overpopulation. When an area is condensed with people in close proximity, body temperatures are closer together, which can create pockets of heat to be released in the atmosphere. With this theory, it certainly isn't America that should take the bulk of responsibility, but rather China.

    Long before the Industrial Revolution, it was still possible to make fires. Fire emits smoke into the atmosphere, which could then tamper with the natural climate, leading to climate changes. So this problem isn't new at all, now is just the first time it's been given a name.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sona View Post
    LOL! you dismiss something without even looking at the evidence. Clearly, you have a biased agenda.

    OK, I'll lay down a challenge for you... Logically prove global warming creates major fluctuation's in global weather and that its man made carbon emission to blame for this....
    I'm not responsible for educating you. How about you buy a book and read about how that very thing has been happening for billions of years?

    Trust me kid, you don't know what you're getting into - your dopey aviator glasses can't help you here.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Uberfuhrer View Post
    Climate has fluctuated from hot to cold and vice versa since the beginning of time for no reason.
    Wrong.

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    What about the Ice Age? And before that, it was warm. After the Ice Age, it also became warm again. I suppose this happened because of cavemen releasing toxic chemicals into the atmosphere (aside from methane)?

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