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    Quote Originally Posted by htb View Post
    In April I recorded a drum kit with a minimal setup, using the Roland R-09 as media (48kHz/24-bit), yielding results that would not be classified as lo-fi. The unit is used by the fellow's own band for stereo recordings recordings of live performances, too, and it performs well.
    "Noted and logged" as Picard would say. I took a look at this and have not entirely ruled it out. It got some good write-ups. My eyes are not so good these days, and some of these recorders that are so small ( in an effort to make them more like portable cell phone cameras, I guess ) have tiny letters on tiny menus for the user interface, that make things difficult for me. This was, I think, the unit that I tried out in the store,, and it failed to pick up the clerks' voice at the end of the counter with its built in microphones. Of course, one could plug a separately purchased microphone into it, and maybe have a good experience, which is why i'm investigating microphones here.

    I realize that different circumstances require ( optimally ) different microphones, but I cannot afford to buy a bunch of different ones, and so I'm wondering which ones are best for all-around use.

    Leasing them hadn't occurred to me. I wonder how expensive that is ? If the price is too "up there" it may make it impractical. I remember recently finding out that buying new batteries for my cordless phone was just a bit cheaper than buying an entirely new cordless phone set-up. So I bought the new set-up.

    For inexpensive recorders the Marantz ( 660 ? ) has got the most appeal for, and support by field recording "industry" types. It has some interesting onboard editing capabilities, too, which the others lack. ( The Edirol doesn't roll that way, IIRC. ) Still, the Marantz is a fairly small unit also...and I might have to get the Oade Brothers mod done to it first....
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    Blue microphones are supposed to be good. I don't need it for singing/music myself, but that's seems likes its intended use.

    Costco - Blue Microphones Snowball Professional USB Microphone

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    that usb mic is interesting, but i'd rather have separate mics and sound cards for more flexibility.

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    It's true that Soundblaster are an amateurs soundcard at best, the X-Fi being the best of that class. If you've got the money to spend then have a look at higher end stuff. I was working under the impression that the budget was like $400 or so..

    I did find a proper soundcard shop once... let me look around.

    Okay try this site
    Audio Interfaces: professional hardware for sound input/output
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    Quote Originally Posted by Xander View Post
    It's true that Soundblaster are an amateurs soundcard at best, the X-Fi being the best of that class. If you've got the money to spend then have a look at higher end stuff. I was working under the impression that the budget was like $400 or so..

    I did find a proper soundcard shop once... let me look around.

    Okay try this site
    Audio Interfaces: professional hardware for sound input/output
    Not sure where you got the $400.00 part. Here is what this site had to say:
    "One of our most frequently asked questions is how to connect a microphone to a PC Computer or laptop and start making audio recordings. Many computers ship with simple dynamic microphones made especially for connecting directly to the soundcard, equipped with 1/8 inch plugs (mini-jacks) that can be plugged straight in to the mic-in socket (often coloured pink on standard sound cards).

    However, while this will be appropriate for beginners and those recording for their own use only, musicians and podcasters who want a more professional sound will probably be disappointed with the quality of these generic mics, and may also find the recording quality of a standard sound card is not too good either."

    So guess what they recommended ? You got it. A USB or digital microphone. Which brings us full circle.

    My budget will be a little less than US $2,000, if everything goes similar this year to the previous ( which is not guaranteed ) year.

    If I buy the "Sound Devices 702" field recording device, as I said, the entire budget is shot. I won't even have any money for the microphones. But I'll have a good field recorder.

    So, I have been looking at other set-ups. Some of these may require more spending in the microphone department ( or somewhere else ) and less in the digital recording department.

    So the budget can be somewhat elastic, depending on these factors.

    The linked site seemed to be high on M-Audio also, which someone posting to this thread said was not a good choice.

    In short; shame on you Xander.

    Just kidding. I appreciate all the input from everyone.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kuranes View Post
    "One of our most frequently asked questions is how to connect a microphone to a PC Computer or laptop and start making audio recordings. Many computers ship with simple dynamic microphones made especially for connecting directly to the soundcard, equipped with 1/8 inch plugs (mini-jacks) that can be plugged straight in to the mic-in socket (often coloured pink on standard sound cards).

    However, while this will be appropriate for beginners and those recording for their own use only, musicians and podcasters who want a more professional sound will probably be disappointed with the quality of these generic mics, and may also find the recording quality of a standard sound card is not too good either."
    That's why I was looking at a PCMCIA soundcard with standard jack sockets... it just seems that only Creative do one and as discussed it's not really the enthusiasts choice.

    How about this
    R-44 (R44) - DV247.COM

    It's not a mic but with memory cards as it's media then all you need is a $10 card reader and you can bring it all on to your laptop.

    The only down side is AA batteries.. but at least they're commonly available.

    Perhaps more research would reveal a decent Lion alternative without blowing the entire budget?
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    kuranes, there's absolutely nothing wrong with using 1/8" jacks, it's the related equipment which comes into question. A Hi-Fi Sound Blaster sound card is only around $50 these days, and you can spend however as much you want on a microphone. All you need to worry about are adapters, and as long as you keep the signal analog all the way to the jack, you won't see much loss, I don't think.

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