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    Quote Originally Posted by ptgatsby View Post
    It's important to differentiate between the software and hardware architecture. It's not unusual for data to be stored in multiple data centers in different physical locations, while maintaining a central "virtual" system.
    Indeed. One of the links I posted earlier focuses on this in an interesting new way.
    "The people can always be brought to the bidding of the leaders. That is easy. All you have to do is tell them that they are being attacked and denounce the peacemakers for lack of patriotism, and exposing the country to danger. It works the same in any country."
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    Quote Originally Posted by Grayscale View Post
    there is a problem there, but i think it when exceptions are made and "slices" of the secured virtual environment are allowed to exist outside of the datacenters intended for them.
    That is a major problem in document management. People don't want to use the system, take stuff out of it and carry it around with them. So much for security.

    Still, I think there is a valid concern for outsiders being able to walk in, grab a server off the shelf and walk home with it, so to speak - naturally it can just be a copy, etc. Even though the physical drives can be well protected in terms of data, this is one major weakness. It means systems that are meant to handle this kind of stuff need to be seriously robust, which hands another set of "keys" to the operators. Although, certainly not impossible to overcome - local IT can set up their own systems out in the cloud as well, and then remote in securely. (Ironically, the more secure it is, the more dangerous having your own IT guy go off is! It's way easier to recover from the 'cloud operator' going crazy... it's just bits on a drive. But recovering from someone who actually has data access? Gah. Revoke/re-encrypt, etc is a serious threat.)

    But... a lot of layers here in which things can go wrong.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ptgatsby View Post
    It's important to differentiate between the software and hardware architecture. It's not unusual for data to be stored in multiple data centers in different physical locations, while maintaining a central "virtual" system.
    What I saw in that video was an attempt to put everything under one roof.
    "We grow up thinking that beliefs are something to be proud of, but they're really nothing but opinions one refuses to reconsider. Beliefs are easy. The stronger your beliefs are, the less open you are to growth and wisdom, because "strength of belief" is only the intensity with which you resist questioning yourself. As soon as you are proud of a belief, as soon as you think it adds something to who you are, then you've made it a part of your ego."

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    "The people can always be brought to the bidding of the leaders. That is easy. All you have to do is tell them that they are being attacked and denounce the peacemakers for lack of patriotism, and exposing the country to danger. It works the same in any country."
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