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    Quote Originally Posted by MacGuffin View Post
    Amazon and Google already offer similar services.
    To whom? Link pls.

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    Online document storage is not the same as full cloud integration of apps and local storage.
    "I do not feel obliged to believe that the same God who has endowed us with sense, reason, and intellect has intended us to forgo their use." - Galileo

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    Quote Originally Posted by bluemonday View Post
    To whom? Link pls.
    Amazon Elastic Compute Cloud (Amazon EC2)

    Google App Engine - Google Code

    IBM has it too... I think they partnered with Google.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Flak View Post
    I let her get away with that business because she's awesome. You just watch it.
    He lets me get away with it 'cos I'm his mom. Norman Bates - Psycho styley. So, yeah, watch out kitty.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bluemonday View Post
    He lets me get away with it 'cos I'm his mom.
    LOL I WISH! Wait, huh?

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    Quote Originally Posted by bluemonday View Post
    He lets me get away with it 'cos I'm his mom. Norman Bates - Psycho styley. So, yeah, watch out kitty.
    I'm just bored, had to swat at something... :zzz:
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    Quote Originally Posted by MacGuffin View Post
    Amazon Elastic Compute Cloud (Amazon EC2)

    Google App Engine - Google Code

    IBM has it too... I think they partnered with Google.
    That doesn't look like much more than application hosting.

    Cloud computing is a whole 'nother ball game. They're talking about a completely centralized architecture. May as well go back to having dumb terminals. 'Tis a bad bad bad idea. Data integrity/security is a big enough problem as it is without all this virtualisation malarkey.

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    I just want to know what IT manager can say he engaged in "due diligence" with a straight face if he horks all his company's data up into the cloud. Just choosing this option could be grounds for a shareholder civil suit, from the look of it.

    Then again, for the staggering number of companies who have their asses hanging in the wind already, I don't guess it's much worse than having swiss cheese for barriers and employees who don't have two common cents to rub together.
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    True. You guys don't have much in the way of a Data Protection Act though, do you. It's all fair game.

    We have pretty good legislation, but in practice every other week some idiotic civil servant sends unencrypted personal/confidential data through the mail on a dvd - then has a fit when it somehow goes missing.

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    this isn't a bad thing whatsoever... it was inevitable.

    virtualization is the natural progression of technology, that's undeniable, and this is the logical next step for Microsoft in order to keep up with virtual application powerhouses like Google.

    think about it... 15 years ago, the user experience was about 90% local and 10% internet, we have gone far past the point of 50/50 and now the majority of a user's time is spent virtually. considering microsoft built themselves on the local user experience, this is a no brainer.

    i really do not think anyone who is not a professional in this field should comment, because if you knew anything you would know this is far more secure. there are not people who manually sift through customer data, that would be too cumbersome, and there are security policies that prevent any one person from accessing and exploiting sensitive data like people have suggested.

    microsoft has the money and the expert knowledge to store information safely, unlike a typical PC user, even at the last level of security (physical access). also, considering the current state of the virtual user experience as well as the trend that will continue to carry is further in that direction, it is more secure to have customer data stay within a contained private network, separate from the internet by firewalls, with only the information needed to run the client app being sent over the internet (encrypted as it might be)

    also, enterprises dont just hand over information to the government. it is sensitive and private, unless the government had specific need for it and legally forced the company, most would err on the side of the customer... being buddy-buddy with the government doesnt really help their business.




    interesting side fact, i spent my highschool years in the town where that datacenter is built.

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