William Shakespeare

[dynamiteninja]

I want a thread that will produce unanimous agreement. If that's ever gonna happen, it's with this post.

INFP

There! Go ahead! Dissent all you will!

[scantilyclad]

agreed.

[Haphazard]

Do people see INFP as like, the default, or something...?

[bluemonday]

Originally Posted by dynamiteninja

I want a thread that will produce unanimous agreement. If that's ever gonna happen, it's with this post.

INFP

There! Go ahead! Dissent all you will!

I'm guessing you only want a unanimous agreement if it concurs with your own?

I've seen him listed as an example of and INFP and an INTP. I would tend to claim him as one of my clan, naturally. But I have it on good authority than he never took the test.

[dynamiteninja]

Originally Posted by bluemonday

I'm guessing you only want a unanimous agreement if it concurs with your own?

I've seen him listed as an example of and INFP and an INTP. I would tend to claim him as one of my clan, naturally. But I have it on good authority than he never took the test.

I've never seen him listed as an INTP. Evidence this!

[bluemonday]

Originally Posted by dynamiteninja

I've never seen him listed as an INTP. Evidence this!

Au contraire, my dear. You seen it at least once - see above.
I can't remember where I read this now, possibly Kiersey? Google it.

Why should I provide evidence when you have supplied none?

We don't know much about his personal life (other than that he abandoned his wife and was probably gay). We have to rely on his work.
I think he is too cynical to be an NF. He doesn't believe in happy ever afters.
I could go but, in the end, does it really matter?

[dynamiteninja]

Originally Posted by bluemonday

Au contraire, my dear. You seen it at least once - see above.
I can't remember where I read this now, possibly Kiersey? Google it.

Why should I provide evidence when you have supplied none?

We don't know much about his personal life (other than that he abandoned his wife and was probably gay). We have to rely on his work.
I think he is too cynical to be an NF. He doesn't believe in happy ever afters.
I could go but, in the end, does it really matter?

I shouldn't have to give a link for my opinion; you claim that he was externally typed as INTP; therefore you should evidence this.

WS did not "abandon" his wife. Like a great deal of husbands, he worked away from home for some of the time. You say he was "probably gay". Yet you also say that we hardly know anything about him! How have you decided that he is gay?

Here's some links suggesting that WS is an INFP:
INFP Profile
INFP (Dreamer) Personality Type - Jungian

Two of the most prominent celeb typing sites. Now the onus is on you to substantiate your claim.

[bluemonday]

Originally Posted by dynamiteninja

I shouldn't have to give a link for my opinion; you claim that he was externally typed as INTP; therefore you should evidence this.

WS did not "abandon" his wife. Like a great deal of husbands, he worked away from home for some of the time. You say he was "probably gay". Yet you also say that we hardly know anything about him! How have you decided that he is gay?

Here's some links suggesting that WS is an INFP:
INFP Profile
INFP (Dreamer) Personality Type - Jungian

Two of the most prominent celeb typing sites. Now the onus is on you to substantiate your claim.

crikey - are you for real?
I haven't decided anything. Nor do I need to substantiate anything. The gay thing is pretty well documented though. Largely based on some of the sonnets. Everybody wants Will in their camp!

Please Understand Me II - Ch 6, p166
"..harmonic thought and speech requires selecting and arranging words for the way they sound, a skill not usually acquired by Rationals, though some (like Shakespeare) can become masters of it when they take it as their province".
I was surprised too....
You can't force a consensus, this is all just idle speculation.

[dynamiteninja]

Originally Posted by bluemonday

crikey - are you for real?
I haven't decided anything. Nor do I need to substantiate anything. The gay thing is pretty well documented though. Largely based on some of the sonnets. Everybody wants Will in their camp!

Please Understand Me II - Ch 6, p166
"..harmonic thought and speech requires selecting and arranging words for the way they sound, a skill not usually acquired by Rationals, though some (like Shakespeare) can become masters of it when they take it as their province".
I was surprised too....
You can't force a consensus, this is all just idle speculation.

The gay thing is a theory, just as there is a Catholic theory, and the theory that someone else wrote his works, created partially as we know so little about him. With the sonnets, it is not clear whether WS was adopting a different voice when he refers to the boy...sonnets do not have to be autobiographical, and surely as one of the world's greatest writers would WS not be more than capable of doing this?

I think that most people would agree that WS was an INFP, just from reading his works.

[Haphazard]

INFP? Pssh.

ENTP.