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    Yeah, I pretty much agree with you all


    Tomoe Hotaru (Saturn) INFJ 4w5
    *As stated above, she's not very well developed. The creator describes her as, "delicate, quiet, precocious and expressionless." She literally has the power to destroy a planet, so one might need extraverted Judgement to handle that kind of responsibility Also, I imagine that INFJs and INFPs can seem equally withdrawn, but Ne (in my experience, at least) makes INFPS someone seem more flightly and expressive.

    Tenoh Haruka (Uranus) ISTP 8w9
    *Obviously, her "need for speed," and flirtatiousness suggest Se, but she has refined that function to running and racing too greatly for it to be dominant.

    Kaiou Michiru (Neptune) INTJ 1w9
    *Neptune is extremely self-controlled, independent, perfectionistic, focused These qualities indicate Te, to me. However, I believe it is secondary to Ni, which enables to deal with large amounts of abstract information. Thus, academically, she rivals Mercury, but her intuition leads her to pursue fine arts. She presents a graciousness that resembles Fe, but I suppose she proves it to be more like thinking when she, somewhat coldly, accuses Mercury, a true IFJ, of holding back in a swimming race. She's also calmly willing to compromise anything in order to achieve her and Uranus' goals.

    Neptune is easily my favorite.

    Meiou Setsuna (Pluto) ISFJ 1w9
    *Again, a somewhat more generic character. She fulfills her duty as the Keeper of Time without complaint, but is described as looking "lonely." She is standoffish, but helpful towards the Inner Senshi, especially Chibiusa.

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    Hmmm...I kind of like Michiru as an INTJ now, considering good, well-rounded female INTJs are so few and far between in the fictional world!

    I still want to figure out Darien! I'm completely pulling this out of nowhere, but maybe ENFJ? He seems very "J"- dedicated, loyal, consistent, always calling out Serena on her "Perceiving" qualities. He has a teasing attitude (in the beginning) that reminds me of some ENFJs I know. I remember a bio of his once said he was a very good student and his favorite course was Physics, a rather abstract subject that may suggest Intuition?

    But is his Dom really Extroverted Feeling? Maybe he is INFJ? Introverted Intuition seems a little more like his character, and the Auxiliary Extroverted Feeling might make more sense.

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    I would agree that Darien is an INFJ.

    I also agree with your comment about female INTJs. Perhaps another good example would be Temperance Brennan from the tv series Bones.
    She and Neptune are both extremely intelligent, but I think Brennan behaviors more like a type Five on the Enneagram.

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    Quote Originally Posted by surgery View Post
    Yeah, I pretty much agree with you all


    Tomoe Hotaru (Saturn) INFJ 4w5
    *As stated above, she's not very well developed. The creator describes her as, "delicate, quiet, precocious and expressionless." She literally has the power to destroy a planet, so one might need extraverted Judgement to handle that kind of responsibility Also, I imagine that INFJs and INFPs can seem equally withdrawn, but Ne (in my experience, at least) makes INFPS someone seem more flightly and expressive.

    Tenoh Haruka (Uranus) ISTP 8w9
    *Obviously, her "need for speed," and flirtatiousness suggest Se, but she has refined that function to running and racing too greatly for it to be dominant.

    Kaiou Michiru (Neptune) INTJ 1w9
    *Neptune is extremely self-controlled, independent, perfectionistic, focused These qualities indicate Te, to me. However, I believe it is secondary to Ni, which enables to deal with large amounts of abstract information. Thus, academically, she rivals Mercury, but her intuition leads her to pursue fine arts. She presents a graciousness that resembles Fe, but I suppose she proves it to be more like thinking when she, somewhat coldly, accuses Mercury, a true IFJ, of holding back in a swimming race. She's also calmly willing to compromise anything in order to achieve her and Uranus' goals.

    Neptune is easily my favorite.

    Meiou Setsuna (Pluto) ISFJ 1w9
    *Again, a somewhat more generic character. She fulfills her duty as the Keeper of Time without complaint, but is described as looking "lonely." She is standoffish, but helpful towards the Inner Senshi, especially Chibiusa.

    I'm surprise you type Neptune as an intj. I find that hard to believe. I don't spot an inch of T in her. But that's just my opinion.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Colombe Gris View Post
    Hmmm...I kind of like Michiru as an INTJ now, considering good, well-rounded female INTJs are so few and far between in the fictional world!

    I still want to figure out Darien! I'm completely pulling this out of nowhere, but maybe ENFJ? He seems very "J"- dedicated, loyal, consistent, always calling out Serena on her "Perceiving" qualities. He has a teasing attitude (in the beginning) that reminds me of some ENFJs I know. I remember a bio of his once said he was a very good student and his favorite course was Physics, a rather abstract subject that may suggest Intuition?

    But is his Dom really Extroverted Feeling? Maybe he is INFJ? Introverted Intuition seems a little more like his character, and the Auxiliary Extroverted Feeling might make more sense.
    Yeah. Darien is definitely an infj. The ideal match for Sailor Moon who's an enfp.
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    I'm surprise you type Neptune as an intj. I find that hard to believe. I don't spot an inch of T in her. But that's just my opinion.
    I'm curious as to what examples you have that make her appear very F-like. Yes, she is very polite and gracious, but that has less to do with F vs. T than one might think. Indeed, it seems to me now that Neptune and Uranus make nice contrast to the inner Senshi. The inner Senshi, as a group, make their decisions based on "what is good/maintaining of relationships/ethical (very F) while the outer Senshi, especially Neptune and Uranus, seem far more impersonal and likely to be objective in achieving their goals (very T).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Colombe Gris View Post
    I'm curious as to what examples you have that make her appear very F-like. Yes, she is very polite and gracious, but that has less to do with F vs. T than one might think. Indeed, it seems to me now that Neptune and Uranus make nice contrast to the inner Senshi. The inner Senshi, as a group, make their decisions based on "what is good/maintaining of relationships/ethical (very F) while the outer Senshi, especially Neptune and Uranus, seem far more impersonal and likely to be objective in achieving their goals (very T).
    It's my gut that makes thinks she's a F vs T.
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    "Remember, remember, this is now, and now, and now. Live it, feel it, cling to it. I want to become acutely aware of all I’ve taken for granted."
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ratsimoan View Post
    It's my gut that makes thinks she's a F vs T.
    just found a link to this thread, hope y'all don't mind me reviving it!

    sailor moon was my favorite cartoon as a middle schooler and i still relate to it sometimes. i think i learned a lot from it and carry a lot of its associations with me still

    i think michiru is an F too. it's also a gut feeling, but i'll try to analyze it.

    for one, i think you can see it in her violin playing and in her painting. her playing is always expressive, moving, usually has an underlying sadness to it. what i'm thinking is that i play music and my brother plays music, but we play for very different reasons. obviously, we both enjoy the sensory aspect of hearing music, but we are very different players as well. he's much more interested in music theory, in emulating the great musicians and improvisation. he plays because of the engagement of thought. i'm much more interested in the way the music is linked to emotion, in interpretation, and in expression. i like the way it allows me to express feeling. accordingly, he's a T, and i'm an F. and michiru seems more of an F player to me. in her paintings, too - notably the one of a whale jumping out of space surrounded by color, and the one of the destruction of the world - they seem inspiring and despairing, respectively. and both appear loose, colorful, and dramatic. nothing is overt; it all hints at F.

    she does cover up her emotions well, but sometimes you hear them spring forth, and when that happens, they're astoundingly deep. like right around the time uranus decides to take her henshin stick - first michiru yells at her not to take it, because it will change her life forever, and then dives in front of uranus, unthinkingly (haha, that word choice was not purposeful, but it works) blocking her with the arm she uses to play. and then she kind of blabbers to haruka that she'd been stalking her because michiru knew haruka was "the one", and always daydreamed about riding by the beach in her car.

    michiru also makes comments about emotional honesty from time to time. i think it's easy to suspect she's T because she seems cold sometimes, but one, i've seen this explained by her not liking people being fake (Fi), plus in terms of praise, she's dealing with the fact she won't be able to fulfill her dream of being a violinist because she has to save the world - which includes hurting people and potentially sacrificing herself. and while michiru holds fast to this as a hardline rule, i think it's very much an ethical decision - she's choosing the greater good. haruka and pluto (also T) demonstrate angst for this too, but not nearly as often. she also often laments how she may have to hurt people, which haruka (definite T) only indicates once, and only by staring at her hands - in response to which michiru says "i like your hands." additionally, when her and haruka chat with others, michiru often plays the more supportive (good cop, lol) role - praising or comforting. at one point she says to usagi you should "cherish" your first kiss - then overtly gazes at haruka - and after laments that she and haruka don't have luxury of falling in love... flirt bait which haruka totally ignores, lol

    the only evidence i would give to the contrary would be when she raced with ami. though first, michiru notices that ami swims "vibrantly" - not really a T kind of assessment. then she got really into the competition of it. she was upset that ami didn't put her all into it, annoyed that maybe ami was trying to make michiru feel better about herself - and that's not a particularly logical conclusion in and of itself. michiru had never met ami before and unfortunately ami was already feeling down that day... and once haruka points it out, michiru feels bad about it.

    but add that to neptune being the soldier of "embrace", type O blood, and a pisces...

    the most convincing thing of all, of course: haruka remarks that michiru "can't even kill one bug". lmao

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    Quote Originally Posted by skylights View Post
    just found a link to this thread, hope y'all don't mind me reviving it!

    sailor moon was my favorite cartoon as a middle schooler and i still relate to it sometimes. i think i learned a lot from it and carry a lot of its associations with me still

    i think michiru is an F too. it's also a gut feeling, but i'll try to analyze it.

    for one, i think you can see it in her violin playing and in her painting. her playing is always expressive, moving, usually has an underlying sadness to it. what i'm thinking is that i play music and my brother plays music, but we play for very different reasons. obviously, we both enjoy the sensory aspect of hearing music, but we are very different players as well. he's much more interested in music theory, in emulating the great musicians and improvisation. he plays because of the engagement of thought. i'm much more interested in the way the music is linked to emotion, in interpretation, and in expression. i like the way it allows me to express feeling. accordingly, he's a T, and i'm an F. and michiru seems more of an F player to me. in her paintings, too - notably the one of a whale jumping out of space surrounded by color, and the one of the destruction of the world - they seem inspiring and despairing, respectively. and both appear loose, colorful, and dramatic. nothing is overt; it all hints at F.

    she does cover up her emotions well, but sometimes you hear them spring forth, and when that happens, they're astoundingly deep. like right around the time uranus decides to take her henshin stick - first michiru yells at her not to take it, because it will change her life forever, and then dives in front of uranus, unthinkingly (haha, that word choice was not purposeful, but it works) blocking her with the arm she uses to play. and then she kind of blabbers to haruka that she'd been stalking her because michiru knew haruka was "the one", and always daydreamed about riding by the beach in her car.

    michiru also makes comments about emotional honesty from time to time. i think it's easy to suspect she's T because she seems cold sometimes, but one, i've seen this explained by her not liking people being fake (Fi), plus in terms of praise, she's dealing with the fact she won't be able to fulfill her dream of being a violinist because she has to save the world - which includes hurting people and potentially sacrificing herself. and while michiru holds fast to this as a hardline rule, i think it's very much an ethical decision - she's choosing the greater good. haruka and pluto (also T) demonstrate angst for this too, but not nearly as often. she also often laments how she may have to hurt people, which haruka (definite T) only indicates once, and only by staring at her hands - in response to which michiru says "i like your hands." additionally, when her and haruka chat with others, michiru often plays the more supportive (good cop, lol) role - praising or comforting. at one point she says to usagi you should "cherish" your first kiss - then overtly gazes at haruka - and after laments that she and haruka don't have luxury of falling in love... flirt bait which haruka totally ignores, lol

    the only evidence i would give to the contrary would be when she raced with ami. though first, michiru notices that ami swims "vibrantly" - not really a T kind of assessment. then she got really into the competition of it. she was upset that ami didn't put her all into it, annoyed that maybe ami was trying to make michiru feel better about herself - and that's not a particularly logical conclusion in and of itself. michiru had never met ami before and unfortunately ami was already feeling down that day... and once haruka points it out, michiru feels bad about it.

    but add that to neptune being the soldier of "embrace", type O blood, and a pisces...

    the most convincing thing of all, of course: haruka remarks that michiru "can't even kill one bug". lmao
    Thank for analyzing it. I couldn't put into words to why I felt like she was a F vs. T.
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    "Remember, remember, this is now, and now, and now. Live it, feel it, cling to it. I want to become acutely aware of all I’ve taken for granted."
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    She's prolly an ENFP due to her clumsiness.

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