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    and i was feeling those feelings you wouldn't believe
    sometimes i don't believe them myself
    and i decided i was never coming down
    just then a tiny little dot
    caught my eye it was just about too small to see
    but i watched it way too long
    it was pulling me down.

    sounds Fi to me.

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    You're taking type too far.

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    Lyrics are supposed to express feelings, therefore, some kind of F must be present.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ajblaise View Post
    An INTJ would not have come up with the video for Closer. I might guess INFP.
    Typing by video? I'm thinking the video director had a lot of input in the concept and presentation of the video.

    Typing by lyrics? Is he the sole author of the lyrics or were there cowriters? You're getting some of their personality too.

    Why is he an N?
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    Quote Originally Posted by proteanmix View Post
    Typing by lyrics? Is he the sole author of the lyrics or were there cowriters? You're getting some of their personality too.

    Why is he an N?
    Pretty Hate Machine was written in 87 or 88, and Trent did the whole album by himself. He had more control over NIN (for a while) than most frontmen do with their bands.

    Again, the Downward Spiral looks like NFP poetry (potentially INTJ). Look up the lyrics if you want.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dissonance View Post
    Again, the Downward Spiral looks like NFP poetry (potentially INTJ). Look up the lyrics if you want.
    I totally agree with Fi, but which lyrics make you say N?

    Here's an interview from when he was 30. My ISFP/INFP radar isn't pitch-perfect by any means, but I'm not seeing the N.

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    "I'm losing ground
    you know how this world can beat you down
    I'm made of clay
    I fear I'm the only one who thinks this way
    I'm always falling down the same hill
    bamboo puncturing this skin
    and nothing comes bleeding out of me just like a waterfall I'm drowning in
    2 feet below the surface I can still make out your wavy face
    and if I could just reach you maybe I could leave this place
    "

    "I stay inside my bed
    I have lived so many lives all in my head
    don't tell me that you care
    there really isn't anything, is there?
    you would know, wouldn't you?
    you extend your hand to those who suffer
    to those who know what it really feels like
    to those who've had a taste
    like that means something
    and oh so sick I am
    and maybe I don't have a choice
    and maybe that is all I have
    and maybe this is a cry for help
    "

    I dunno, seems N. ISFP with strong tertiary Ni makes sense too, though. Some of his lyrics are pretty concrete.

    Edit: N also makes a lot of sense due to his thinking outside the box with songwriting. Very original.
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    And this is not my face
    And this is not my life
    And there is not a single thing here
    I can recognize
    This is all a dream
    And none of you are real
    I'll give anything
    I'll give anything
    ^ He has shut himself off. He cannot reconcile the ugliness of life and of human nature with his Fi, empathetic predilections, he saves himself from the horror through detachment, but there are regrets, he wishes in some other place this wouldn't have to be the case. Hope and despair, two things that are prevalent in many if not most of his lyrics.

    Nice and high and far apart
    Just like they said
    I built this place with broken parts
    Just like they said
    You chip away the old version of you
    You'd be surprised at what you can do
    I'm safe in here
    Irrelevant
    Just like they said

    My voice just echoes off these walls

    You feel me breathe
    I am watching you
    I see it all
    The many ways you can't get to me
    I see it all
    I see the hell you put yourself through
    Oh, the things I could do (If I wanted to)

    My voice just echoes off these walls
    My voice just echoes off these walls
    I don't need anything at all
    My voice just echoes off these walls

    And I just slowly fade away

    You will never ever get to me in here
    He has a keen sense into human beings and their natures, if he so desired he could pick people to shreds but he doesn't and he won't. He is ALONE, he knows that very few people if any understand where he is coming from, he is ALONE, and perhaps this is all that he will ever have. AKA. Fi to MAX!!!!




    "Where Is Everybody?"

    did you happen to catch
    or did it happen so fast
    what you thought would always last
    has passed you by
    is everything speeding up
    or am I slowing down
    just spinning around
    and I don't know why
    all the pieces don't fit
    thought I really didn't give a shit
    I never wanted to be like you
    but for all I aspire
    I am really a liar
    and I'm running out of things I can do

    I'd like to stay
    but every day
    everything pushes me further away
    if you could show
    help me to know
    how it's supposed to be
    where did it go?

    pleading and
    needing and
    bleeding and
    breeding and
    feeding
    exceeding
    where is everybody?
    trying and lying
    defying denying
    crying and dying
    where is everybody?

    well okay, enough,
    you've had your fun
    but come on there has to be someone
    that hasn't yet become
    so numb and succumb
    and god damn I am so tired of pretending
    of wishing I was ending
    when all I'm really doing is trying to hide
    and keep it inside
    and fill it with lies
    open my eyes?
    maybe I wish I could try

    pleading and needing
    and bleeding and breeding
    and feeding exceeding
    where is everybody?
    trying and lying
    defying denying
    crying and dying
    where is everybody?
    Yet again, disgusted by human beings and their nature and he is desperately wondering if he is the only one who sees this horror and he wonders where everybody IS, where are the human beings not the animals, not the zombies, not the monsters, the human beings.



    she shines
    in a world full of ugliness
    she matters when everything is meaningless

    fragile
    she doesn't see her beauty
    she tries to get away
    sometimes
    it's just that nothing seems worth saving
    I can't watch her slip away

    I won't let you fall apart

    she reads the minds of all the people as they pass her by
    hoping someone can see

    if I could fix myseld I'd - but it's too late for me

    I wont let you fall apart

    we'll find the perfect place to go where we can run and hide
    I'll build a wall and we can keep them on the other side
    ...but they keep waiting
    ...and picking...

    it's something I have to do
    I was there, too
    before everyhting else
    I was like you
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    Quote Originally Posted by dissonance View Post
    "I'm losing ground
    you know how this world can beat you down
    I'm made of clay
    I fear I'm the only one who thinks this way
    I'm always falling down the same hill
    bamboo puncturing this skin
    and nothing comes bleeding out of me just like a waterfall I'm drowning in
    2 feet below the surface I can still make out your wavy face
    and if I could just reach you maybe I could leave this place
    "

    "I stay inside my bed
    I have lived so many lives all in my head
    don't tell me that you care
    there really isn't anything, is there?
    you would know, wouldn't you?
    you extend your hand to those who suffer
    to those who know what it really feels like
    to those who've had a taste
    like that means something
    and oh so sick I am
    and maybe I don't have a choice
    and maybe that is all I have
    and maybe this is a cry for help
    "

    I dunno, seems N. ISFP with strong tertiary Ni makes sense too, though. Some of his lyrics are pretty concrete.

    Edit: N also makes a lot of sense due to his thinking outside the box with songwriting. Very original.
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