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    Default The Joker (the Dark Knight)

    The Joker - ENTP

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    Batman - ISTP
    Alfred - ISFJ

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    I can't seem to disagree, but I don't have a strong opinion on Alfred.

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    Hmmm...You know, I often wonder if the Ts in a type are supposed to somehow be related to planning and whatnot....every type can be have plans....Joker being a chaotic character (he has a plan in the sense that he has his values, which are very well defined, but he carries out "the plan" in a pretty chaotic fashion)... F wouldn't feel out of place.

    I think he might be an idealist (NF). I think there is this idea that NFs can't be evil or something...I mean, how many villains are typed as NF? But at the end of the day it's how the person uses his/her functions right? Would a NT leave his life to chance (hospital scene) ?

    So my question is why not ENFP?

    I'd say Harvey might be an ENTP.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Flak View Post
    I can't seem to disagree, but I don't have a strong opinion on Alfred.
    No I don't but going on Michael Cain's interpretation I think he must be.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sytpg View Post
    Hmmm...You know, I often wonder if the Ts in a type are supposed to somehow be related with planning and whatnot....Joker being a truly chaotic character... F wouldn't feel out of place.

    I think he might be an idealist (NF). I think there is this idea that NFs can't be evil or something...I mean, how many villains are typed as NF? But at the end of the day is how the person uses his/her functions right? Would a NT leave his life to chance (hospital scene) ?

    So my question is why not ENFP?
    Oh yes I agree. I don't think an ENTP would have as much insight into peoples motivations as easily as the Joker did. ENFP on the other hand, totally.

    That's what I thought when I watched it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sytpg View Post
    Hmmm...You know, I often wonder if the Ts in a type are supposed to somehow be related to planning and whatnot....every type can be have plans....Joker being a chaotic character (he has a plan in the sense that he has his values, which are very well defined, but he carries out "the plan" in a pretty chaotic fashion)... F wouldn't feel out of place.

    I think he might be an idealist (NF). I think there is this idea that NFs can't be evil or something...I mean, how many villains are typed as NF? But at the end of the day it's how the person uses his/her functions right? Would a NT leave his life to chance (hospital scene) ?

    So my question is why not ENFP?

    I'd say Harvey might be an ENTP.
    good point. why ENTP for Harvey?

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    Harvey Dent - ESTJ

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    harvey dent - estj (thank you above)
    the joker - intj (somewhat stuck in his own logical system unaware of "the real world" thats not a bash on intjs)
    batman - istp
    alfred - enfj imo
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    Quote Originally Posted by mlittrell View Post
    harvey dent - estj (thank you above)
    the joker - intj (somewhat stuck in his own logical system unaware of "the real world" thats not a bash on intjs)
    batman - istp
    alfred - enfj imo
    Re: alfred.

    I think its often hard to tell with older people the E and I because it becomes very balanced with age. (in a healthy person or some one who's just past care).

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    Quote Originally Posted by mlittrell View Post
    the joker - intj (somewhat stuck in his own logical system unaware of "the real world" thats not a bash on intjs)
    I don't think the joker is capable of introspection.

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