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    Quote Originally Posted by Economica View Post
    I was just talking about his type with friends the other day. We were debating INFJ/ENFJ. What makes you think he is extroverted? In the interviews I've seen, he strikes me as an introvert (somewhat shy and reserved, quiet and monotone speech, pauses to think before answering), but I'm open to arguments.

    (Incidentally, don't worry, NFJs - no matter what, he's not going on my list due to criterion 2, part 2 in the OP. )

    Edit: Check out this interview for instance. Do Es mumble and fade like that? I know he's on drugs *insert Ozzy joke* but still?
    In the interview he feels like an INFJ to me, whatever that's worth.
    “There are two novels that can change a bookish fourteen-year old’s life: The Lord of the Rings and Atlas Shrugged. One is a childish fantasy that often engenders a lifelong obsession with its unbelievable heroes, leading to an emotionally stunted, socially crippled adulthood, unable to deal with the real world. The other, of course, involves orcs.”
    ~ John Rogers

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    Quote Originally Posted by cafe View Post
    In the interview he feels like an INFJ to me, whatever that's worth.
    That's worth something.

    Hey, can I recruit you to give your take on Johnny Depp? (See... most of this thread. )

    Edit#2: Argh! You already have! Never mind then.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Economica View Post
    That's worth something.

    Hey, can I recruit you to give your take on Johnny Depp? (See... most of this thread. )

    Edit#2: Argh! You already have! Never mind then.
    I can't remember what I said, but he has that sparkly personality thing that I associate with FPs.

    Despite the name of his Pirate character, FPs strike me as bluebirds to FJ's sparrows.
    “There are two novels that can change a bookish fourteen-year old’s life: The Lord of the Rings and Atlas Shrugged. One is a childish fantasy that often engenders a lifelong obsession with its unbelievable heroes, leading to an emotionally stunted, socially crippled adulthood, unable to deal with the real world. The other, of course, involves orcs.”
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    Quote Originally Posted by cafe View Post
    I can't remember what I said, but he has that sparkly personality thing that I associate with FPs.

    Despite the name of his Pirate character, FPs strike me as bluebirds to FJ's sparrows.
    I may be coming 'round to JD as INFP.

    But, uh, bluebirds and sparrows? Explain please - Google just says sparrows harass bluebirds?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Economica View Post
    I was just talking about his type with friends the other day. We were debating INFJ/ENFJ. What makes you think he is extroverted? In the interviews I've seen, he strikes me as an introvert (somewhat shy and reserved, quiet and monotone speech, pauses to think before answering), but I'm open to arguments.

    (Incidentally, don't worry, NFJs - no matter what, he's not going on my list due to criterion 2, part 2 in the OP. )

    Edit: Check out this interview for instance. Do Es mumble and fade like that? I know he's on drugs *insert Ozzy joke* but still?
    Actually, I think you are right. He may even be an NT, because he's into the shock value and stuff and doesn't seem to care what other people think.

    I also think Hitler was an ENFJ, but since we're only talking about living people (unless he truly did escape to Brazil to become a priest! :P ), this is as far as I'll go.

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    Oh, sorry. I'm thinking of a purely visual comparison.
    “There are two novels that can change a bookish fourteen-year old’s life: The Lord of the Rings and Atlas Shrugged. One is a childish fantasy that often engenders a lifelong obsession with its unbelievable heroes, leading to an emotionally stunted, socially crippled adulthood, unable to deal with the real world. The other, of course, involves orcs.”
    ~ John Rogers

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    Quote Originally Posted by cafe View Post
    In the interview he feels like an INFJ to me, whatever that's worth.
    That's funny because Marilyn Manson strikes me as an ISTP.
    Step into my metaphysical room of mirrors.
    Fear of reality creates myopic morality
    So I guess it means there is trouble until the robins come
    (from Blue Velvet)

    I want to be just like my mother, even if she is bat-shit crazy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Uberfuhrer View Post
    I also think Hitler was an ENFJ, but since we're only talking about living people (unless he truly did escape to Brazil to become a priest! :P ), this is as far as I'll go.
    From the accounts I've heard of his life growing up and so forth... ESTP

    He was a ringleader, bully, pulling practical jokes, etc.

    ESTPs have all the same functions as INFJs, but in a different order - fwiw.

    Don't underestimate STs - they more than most types can successfully manipulate the concrete world to their goals. People who make a strong impact outward as a persona could well be Ss more often than Ns who draw people into their internal vision. A strong N like Beethoven made a impact with ideas more than as a persona. His persona is strong but his ideas don't rely on it for their force whereas Hitler and MManson need their persona more than their ideas.
    Step into my metaphysical room of mirrors.
    Fear of reality creates myopic morality
    So I guess it means there is trouble until the robins come
    (from Blue Velvet)

    I want to be just like my mother, even if she is bat-shit crazy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by toonia View Post
    That's funny because Marilyn Manson strikes me as an ISTP.
    You are much more familiar with musicians than I am, so you may very well be right. I believe my dad is an ISTP and we have a lot in common, despite never having been around each other much. It might not be that big of a jump.
    “There are two novels that can change a bookish fourteen-year old’s life: The Lord of the Rings and Atlas Shrugged. One is a childish fantasy that often engenders a lifelong obsession with its unbelievable heroes, leading to an emotionally stunted, socially crippled adulthood, unable to deal with the real world. The other, of course, involves orcs.”
    ~ John Rogers

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    Quote Originally Posted by Uberfuhrer View Post
    Actually, I think you are right. He may even be an NT, because he's into the shock value and stuff and doesn't seem to care what other people think.

    I also think Hitler was an ENFJ, but since we're only talking about living people (unless he truly did escape to Brazil to become a priest! :P ), this is as far as I'll go.
    Yes, Manson could have been INTJ I guess, but I've allways thought INFJ (ever since Bowling for Columbine at least).

    Hitler, like Mother Theresa, Jesus, Mary, Mohammad, Richard Lionheart, Robin Hood and Vlad the Impaler are allmost impossible to type, since the real person and the myth are almost inseparable these days.

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