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    Default Sherlock Holmes (INTP) VS Batman (INTJ)

    INTJ's and INTP's have long been rivals in the word of MBTI. Just as Batman and Sherlock Holmes (known to be the worlds greatest detectives) have long been rivals in the world of fiction. In fact Batman and Sherlock are the perfect example of the difference between INTJ's and INTP's.

    Let's first look at the similarities. They are both amazingly brilliant and, as I have mentioned, the worlds greatest detectives. Their genius tends to repel most but seduce some. They both have ISFJ allies (Commissioner Gordon and John Watson that is) who detest parts of them, but still follow them. And they both prefer a more solitary environment. But that's about all.

    Now let's get t the fun part. Batman devoted his ENTIRE life to Gotham City. He has to manage the life of a super wealthy CEO which is already so much responsibility on it's own. But he also has to juggle that with another life as a super hero who has to always be there. He works the day shift and the night shift and even during his free time he's not doing nothing. He's usually on the Bat computer of making something. He he even manages to squeeze in sleep time is beyond me. Something tells me he's learned to not nee sleep. Which I just can't imagine. His Ni mixed with his Te makes him hugely responsible and completely devoted to his worked. He's always doing SOMETHING. Sherlock on the other hand is almost the opposite. He prefers to just be thinking most of the time. Just pondering. The book says he'll go hours on end just sitting with his head deep in thought, Which shows his dominant Ti. And other times he'll be going super wild with his discoveries and cases and what not, showing an extremely obvious Ne. He enjoys a more quite life of living in a small flat that he doesn't even have to pay for because he once helped his land lady with a case. Speaking of which, he doesn't even except payment for the cases he solves because to him, it's all entertainment.

    Batman uses the skills that were given to him to go out and make many things of them. Anywhere from learning almost every martial art, to inventing a who bunch of gadgets and sick rides. Batman made himself into something huge. Sherlock took his brilliant brain, and instead of using it to become rich and powerful like his INTJ brother Mycroft, he just basically uses it to do whatever the hell he wants. Batman care widely about each citizen of Gotham. Nothing passes without him noticing and dealing with it. Then theirs Sherlock who's main weakness is apathy. He has a really hard time thinking about others. The only real reason he stops crime, is so that he won't keep being bored. He just wants to keep "playing the game".

    So their you have it. Please tell me what you think.

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    Batman is an ISTJ. He makes trillions of plans for situations that might possibly happen, he's bound by a sense of duty, and he's procedural.

    That said, I do agree with a lot of your analysis. It hammers down the difference between Ti and Te.

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    I believe I echoed the ISTJ point in a thread long ago somewhere deep in these archives. I can get on board with Holmes being an INTP for sure. That's not a really hard stream to cross at all.

    The real main difference between Batman and Sherlock Holmes is Sherlock is way, way hotter than Batman.
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    Well, this is just pointless, because no one can ever agree on either character's type.

    Or which one is hotter. (In my opinion, Holmes.)
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    Quote Originally Posted by BadOctopus View Post
    Well, this is just pointless, because no one can ever agree on either character's type.

    Or which one is hotter. (In my opinion, Holmes.)
    I don't think it's necessarily pointless. Whether you agree on a character's fundamental type or not, you can still use a character to illustrate a function, which could theoretically help someone understand the functions.

    Also, sorry if you get notifications of me liking and unliking your post repeatedly. I was trying to catch a flea on my iPad.
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    Si could have never learned all of the things Batman learned the way Ni could. As I said in the post, he learned almost every martial art. Also, while an ISTJ always follows protocol, Batman uses his own understanding making him an INTJ. BTW, Please tell me that you guys read the whole thing. My rational would make much more sense if you did.

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    Sherlock Holmes (at least the canonical version) is ENTJ. I suspect that Batman is as well.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Studmuffin23 View Post
    Sherlock Holmes (at least the canonical version) is ENTJ. I suspect that Batman is as well.
    Sorry, but there's no way Holmes is an extrovert. He has a preference for quiet and solitude, and he absolutely needs to be alone at times. That's when he does his best thinking.

    He also doesn't have the social skills or charisma of an ENTJ. Or the ambition, for that matter. In his own words, he is "the most incurably lazy devil that ever stood in shoe leather."
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    Which version of Batman are we talking about? I use to read the comics and he always struck me as an intuitive.

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    Quote Originally Posted by great_bay View Post
    Which version of Batman are we talking about? I use to read the comics and he always struck me as an intuitive.
    I'm referring to the comics.

    Quote Originally Posted by bilbotook View Post
    Si could have never learned all of the things Batman learned the way Ni could. As I said in the post, he learned almost every martial art. Also, while an ISTJ always follows protocol, Batman uses his own understanding making him an INTJ. BTW, Please tell me that you guys read the whole thing. My rational would make much more sense if you did.
    Why couldn't an ISTJ learn all the things Batman could? Let's look at the traits of Batman's that are consistent in nearly every comic since the '80s:

    - he strictly follows his procedures
    - he makes contingency plans for ludicrous hypotheticals
    - he is compelled by a strong sense of duty that even overrides his self-preservation instincts
    - he makes connections by running details by his personalized HIGHLY ESOTERIC database
    - he is entirely motivated by an event from the past he can't get over

    If those aren't Si stereotypes on steroids, I don't know what is.

    Edit: But if you ignore his actual personality traits and look at Batman as a mere entity, you could pass him off as an example of an INTJ. He probably is one in the Nolan films anyway.
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