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    Quote Originally Posted by Southern Kross View Post
    Yeah. I haven't read the books either.
    Here's a thread arguing about Phantom: Phantom of the Opera characters

    I think there's probably enough INFP votes for me to include him on my "Evil INFP" poster.

    Sweeney is all Fi/Si Ne in the Sondheim musical. And Willow - couldn't come up with anything but INFP for her.

    There be some evil INFP characters - just something we got to live with. Personally I think they're badass evil characters - there's nothing like a truly memorable and great villain/antihero in literature.

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    Quote Originally Posted by blahblahbob View Post
    Here's a thread arguing about Phantom: Phantom of the Opera characters

    I think there's probably enough INFP votes for me to include him on my "Evil INFP" poster.
    Your prerogative. I simply disagree.

    There be some evil INFP characters - just something we got to live with. Personally I think they're badass evil characters - there's nothing like a truly memorable and great villain/antihero in literature.
    I'm not trying to make INFPs look better here. I just don't think they fit the traditional 'evil' mold in fiction well. It's not that I'm in denial about the existence of truly horrible INFPs or that I can't stand seeing a INFP bad guy.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Southern Kross View Post
    Your prerogative. I simply disagree.


    I'm not trying to make INFPs look better here. I just don't think they fit the traditional 'evil' mold in fiction well. It's not that I'm in denial about the existence of truly horrible INFPs or that I can't stand seeing a INFP bad guy.
    I understand your position - sort of. Phantom is a solid example of Fi's nature:

    "The existence of a positive feeling can be inferred only indirectly, as it were. Its aim is not so much to accommodate to the objective fact as to stand above it, since its whole unconscious effort is to give reality to the underlying images. It is, as it were, continually seeking an image which has no existence in reality, but of which it has had a sort of previous vision. From objects that can never fit in with its aim it seems to glide unheedingly away. It strives after an inner intensity, to which at the most, objects contribute only an accessory stimulus. The depths of this feeling can only be divined -- they can never be clearly comprehended. It makes men silent and difficult of access; with the sensitiveness of the mimosa, it shrinks from the brutality of the object, in order to expand into the depths of the subject. It puts forward negative feeling-judgments or assumes an air of profound indifference, as a measure of self-defence." - Jung


    Fi seeks to give reality to itself - it sees what it wants to see. Phantom sees exactly what he wants to see and doesn't stop seeing it until Christine finally kisses him at the end and he realizes that it's an illusion.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Southern Kross View Post
    Yeah. I haven't read the books either.
    Well, the books had less singing.
    And they explain the why behind "keep your hand at the level of your eyes" in a more suspenseful, and successfully creepy, way.
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    I think Mrs Lancaster in the Christie novel By the Pricking of my Thumbs would count as an INFP villainess...her thinking developed into the logic that her child died and she could not have any more children...so no other child should live...poison and suspense and very quiet ruthlessness...
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    This is interesting.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Magic Qwan View Post
    This is interesting.
    What is?

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    The Grinch who stole Christmas.

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    Quote Originally Posted by chubber View Post
    The Grinch who stole Christmas.
    INFJ --- way too much Fe in Grinch.

    INFJs are the Grinches who steal Christmas and the Antia Sarkeesians who go into fury that people are having fun on their video games.

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    Quote Originally Posted by riva View Post
    When estjs are used they are always used negatively.
    Hmmm... well, ESTJs are usually one of the furthest from creative types so they'll be less likely to be easily conceived by a writer who will probably be more drawn to his own types.

    Aragorn is definitely ESTJ. Maybe that President from Independence Day - lots of action movies have ESTJs. Movies are for subordinates - ESTJs are out doing stuff...

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