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    I read quite a bit of it, too.

    I think the main reason people did not pick up on the severity of the situation is that he has been in treatment so often and for so long that him having trouble had already been normal. It was just Elliot being Elliot. His extraordinary blindness for how the world works is also very interesting. Reading this, I see all the evidence of what goes wrong right in front of him, but he just cannot see it. Reminds me a bit of our little FireShield.

    As for types, which are, of course, the whole purpose of this thread: ISTJ, 3w2.

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    I actually ended up watching his videos: Elliot Rogers Retribution, and would like to give my share of my psychoanalyzing.

    Let's see...he talks about rejection. The first people who are supposed to teach us accept ourselves and others are our parents. Do not dismiss childhood experiences - especially in this young person. So what i see is some sort of inner conflict he keeps mirroring constantly to other people (who he doesn't know) instead of actually going to the roots of the problem. He may have had rejections from others, but that's not the problem. He's parent's never loved him as who he really is. Instead i see something similar from my parents. Excessive adoration - he had to be to his parents the greatest person in the world - the person they chose. And after that he was doomed when he tried to play the same game in society. Taking part to a society that has it's own expectations in this condition - it's suicide.

    The combination is interesting- excessive self-hatred with excessive self-admiration. I think he needs the first one to balance the latter part. He also has huge inability understand himself and others.

    Did you watch his videos. This is picked from one of them(about dating girls):
    "I want to prove im worthy. I want to feel that sense of being worthy."

    He lack's ability to show healthy love towards himself. He sees that there is something he should be doing until he could feel satisfied of himself. Only thing he does is materialistic adoration of himself.

    Same video:
    "I dont know why you girl's hate me so much"

    He uses word "hate". He automatically imply that other girls hate him. Psychological fact is that no one hates a stranger just like that and if they do, it's because of something inside their own mind - conflict with themselves; that has nothing to do with others. Devastating fact is, which he haven't realized, is that he actually hates himself. Other people are simple mirrors to the emotions he cannot cope with.

    "im a perfect guy" - he says. Of what i see that he has tried to play a character he believes is perfect. But he doesn't see that his vision of perfect(materialistic) is one of the reasons he is stuck. No one can fall for an empty puppet. Even he doesn't love himself, but he is unable to see it.

    "...the true alpha male". Again, he values himself(and others) with superficial ways. Depth of his mind he believes he has to be "something" in order to be cared. That might be the reason why he cant take social contact in first place.

    "I'll be god" - also taken from him. This statement in my eyes is a wish to control one's life. He feels he doesn't have any power over himself and his life. He want's the control he never had. I presume his parents have acted unpredictable way or his environment in general has been that way.

    "Crime of living better life than me. All those popular kids..." - His thinking is black and white. He thinks he is the only one with pain and others have perfect life. He have not experienced the variety of life.

    "...never accepted me" - he doesn't understand that it's not the job of "popular kids" to accept him. It was his parents job to make him accept himself.

    He would have needed clear boundaries and healthy love from his parents.

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    This guy is crazy, and should be banned from internets. The government must develop technology to stop fruitless fame, like censorship the entire internet, with bio-signatures to go online, and no anonymity, and have ready teams ready to deploy worldwide for maximum impact.
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    Quote Originally Posted by johnnyyukon View Post
    [This shit is all in this freak's head.

    These are only a few examples of search results from the word "reject." I stopped, but there's like 30 more.
    I read the whole document a few weeks ago, I don't remember the details right now but he did have explicit rejection experiences in middle school.

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    I would say ISFP 3w4 as well.

    Let's remember that being a Judging type is much more about whether structure and order come naturally to you and you find them aesthetically appealing, than how you perceive people (which I think is more multifaceted, and there are big Te-Fe differences).

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    A thing people should keep in mind is that lots of folks with Asperger's don't go out and do what he did. Maybe it's a little bit of a straw man, but it's worth noting.

    (And no, I don't have it, but I have something else that can result in similar issues with interpersonal relationships).
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    I like his writing style, very psychological, he should have become a writer instead of a dead murderer. Also when it comes to MBTI, this may be controversial, but I'm feeling he was some sort of Intuitive. INTJ 3w4 sx/sp seems like it could be correct. But I'm not an expert, so feel free to laugh at me.

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    He was just misunderstood.

    All he wanted was to hook up or everyone dies.

    Poor guy.
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    Quote Originally Posted by johnnyyukon View Post
    He was just misunderstood.

    All he wanted was to hook up or everyone dies.

    Poor guy.
    What he asked was simple: Put out or be put down. Why was that so difficult to understand?

    I blame liberal media for telling people they can choose who to sleep with.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hive View Post
    What he asked was simple: Put out or be put down. Why was that so difficult to understand?

    I blame liberal media for telling people they can choose who to sleep with.
    Agreed. And why wasn't his beautiful prose published? It was insane and extra mass murderey.

    If that's not a NYT bestseller, I don't know what is!!
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