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    How is Marvin an INTP??? I am not seeing it. Most INFP's seem to have that self-loathing quality. And feels everyone hates him. It's like Marvin is down on life, down on everything. It seems INTP's are unconcerned with this type of thing.

    OF course I am more familiar with Keirsey's profiles than the MBTI.... so maybe I see it different.

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    Quote Originally Posted by IXTJ View Post
    How is Marvin an INTP??? I am not seeing it. Most INFP's seem to have that self-loathing quality. And feels everyone hates him. It's like Marvin is down on life, down on everything. It seems INTP's are unconcerned with this type of thing.
    This is has much more to do with neurosis than MBTI type.

    OF course I am more familiar with Keirsey's profiles than the MBTI.... so maybe I see it different.
    I've had a look at your typology website/blog. Many of your typings are decent and, for the most part, fairly accurate. However, I would strongly recommend not trying to type people (real or fictional) by solely using the MBTI dichotomous preferences (+ Keirsey). Typings are usually far more accurate if done with a combination of Jungian functions and overall MBTI/Jung (but not Keirsey) type descriptions. Or at least, this is my opinion.
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    Quote Originally Posted by IXTJ View Post
    How is Marvin an INTP??? I am not seeing it. Most INFP's seem to have that self-loathing quality. And feels everyone hates him. It's like Marvin is down on life, down on everything. It seems INTP's are unconcerned with this type of thing.

    OF course I am more familiar with Keirsey's profiles than the MBTI.... so maybe I see it different.
    Most NT's can be atrociously self-doubting and self-loathing.
    Keirsey actually says that NT's are the most self-doubting of all temperaments- since they rely more on logic than irrational feelings that they are 'special' inside.
    As an ENTP, there have been times in my life when I have been self-loathing and believed that everyone else was truly luckier than I am.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MerkW View Post
    This is has much more to do with neurosis than MBTI type.


    I've had a look at your typology website/blog. Many of your typings are decent and, for the most part, fairly accurate. However, I would strongly recommend not trying to type people (real or fictional) by solely using the MBTI dichotomous preferences (+ Keirsey). Typings are usually far more accurate if done with a combination of Jungian functions and overall MBTI/Jung (but not Keirsey) type descriptions. Or at least, this is my opinion.
    Thanks for the input.... I'd love to look at it in a more efficient way if that is a possibility (and with me it always is). But I tend to be (1) too busy and (2) have several ADD-type traits. Where can I get a nice, not too wordy, rundown of the functions?

    Alot of my opinions come with personal experience. The 8 letters are essentially the same with each of these psychologist types. They just have different explanations of the different combinations. So I kind of make a practical application of what they do by looking at people I know (fictional or otherwise) and I just get a feel on what types they are. For example, ESTP's seem to (I am very much generalizing here) seem to be the energetic, smooth talkers of the world. INFP's seem to be hurting on the inside. ISTJ's tend to be uptight. ESFJ's are the typical mothers. etc.... I don't know where I was going with this. I think I was saying that I don't even follow what Keisey says as fact (I use his example because I have studied his work moreso than Jung or Myers and Briggs). I base most of what I write and say on his descriptions of the 4 temperaments. I strongly agree with that aspect of his work.

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    Quote Originally Posted by IXTJ View Post
    How is Marvin an INTP??? I am not seeing it. Most INFP's seem to have that self-loathing quality. And feels everyone hates him. It's like Marvin is down on life, down on everything. It seems INTP's are unconcerned with this type of thing.
    He loathes everything but is still incredibly arrogant. He's always saying how he hates that everyone isn't as smart as him and it depresses him that he's unable to ever have an intellectual conversation without having to talk down to people.

    This is how I feel ALL of the time.

    But nobody has typed the best character yet. What type is "The Voice of the Book"?

    ENTP?
    Why do we always come here?

    I guess we'll never know.

    It's like a kind of torture,
    To have to watch this show.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mort Belfry View Post
    But nobody has typed the best character yet. What type is "The Voice of the Book"? ENTP?
    Without question. It's Adams, through and through.

    To the rest of the the thread: nice crosstalk. I actually deleted Marvin, listing central cast in order of appearance, then forgot to drop his line back in. He's here, now. I would say a very misomaniacal ISTJ; a dark Arthur.

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    Quote Originally Posted by htb View Post
    I would say a very misomaniacal ISTJ; a dark Arthur.
    I like this estimation.

    Nice thread.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Night View Post
    I like this estimation.
    It occurred to me that Marvin could be interpreted as the end state Arthur might have met had the "lifestyle" troubles never been overcome. Of course, Adams didn't seem the type to encourage this thinking -- Marvin and Arthur were what they were, part of a sketch and good for light laughs.

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    Eddie the computer: ESFP

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    Deep Thought - ENTJ?
    Why do we always come here?

    I guess we'll never know.

    It's like a kind of torture,
    To have to watch this show.

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