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    Anyone know enough about Jackson Browne to type him?

    My guess is xNFP based on the lyrics and his pic, but curious what anyone else thinks.




    Jackson Browne | For America lyrics

    As if I really didn't understand
    That I was just another part of their plan
    I went off looking for the promise
    Believing in the motherland
    And from the comfort of a dreamers bed
    And the safety of my own head
    I went on speaking of the future
    While other people fought and bled
    The kid I was when I first left home
    Was looking for his freedom and a life of his own
    But the freedom that he found wasn't quite as sweet
    When the truth was known
    I have prayed for america
    I was made for america
    Its in my blood and in my bones
    By the dawns early light
    By all I know is right
    Were going to reap what we have sown

    As if freedom was a question of might
    As if loyalty was black and white
    You hear people say it all the time-
    My country wrong or right
    I want to know what that's got to do
    With what it takes to find out whats true
    With everyone from the president on down
    Trying to keep it from you

    The thing I wonder about the dads and moms
    Who send their sons to the vietnams
    Will they really think their way of life
    Has been protected as the next war comes?
    I have prayed for america
    I was made for america
    Her shining dream plays in my mind
    By the rockets red glare
    A generations blank stare
    We better wake her up this time

    The kid I was when I first left home
    Was looking for his freedom and a life of his own
    But the freedom that he found wasn't quite as sweet
    When the truth was known
    I have prayed for america
    I was made for america
    I cant let go till she comes around
    Until the land of the free
    Is awake and can see
    And until her conscience has been found



    Jackson Browne | The Pretender lyrics

    Im going to rent myself a house
    In the shade of the freeway
    Im going to pack my lunch in the morning
    And go to work each day
    And when the evening rolls around
    Ill go on home and lay my body down
    And when the morning light comes streaming in
    Ill get up and do it again
    Amen
    Say it again
    Amen

    I want to know what became of the changes
    We waited for love to bring
    Were they only the fitful dreams
    Of some greater awakening
    Ive been aware of the time going by
    They say in the end its the wink of an eye
    And when the morning light comes streaming in
    Youll get up and do it again
    Amen

    Caught between the longing for love
    And the struggle for the legal tender
    Where the sirens sing and the church bells ring
    And the junk man pounds his fender
    Where the veterans dream of the fight
    Fast asleep at the traffic light
    And the children solemnly wait
    For the ice cream vendor
    Out into the cool of the evening
    Strolls the pretender
    He knows that all his hopes and dreams
    Begin and end there

    Ah the laughter of the lovers
    As they run through the night
    Leaving nothing for the others
    But to choose off and fight
    And tear at the world with all their might
    While the ships bearing their dreams
    Sail out of sight

    Im going to find myself a girl
    Who can show me what laughter means
    And well fill in the missing colors
    In each others paint-by-number dreams
    And then well put out dark glasses on
    And well make love until our strength is gone
    And when the morning light comes streaming in
    Well get up and do it again
    Get it up again

    Im going to be a happy idiot
    And struggle for the legal tender
    Where the ads take aim and lay their claim
    To the heart and the soul of the spender
    And believe in whatever may lie
    In those things that money can buy
    Thought true love could have been a contender
    Are you there?
    Say a prayer for the pretender
    Who started out so young and strong
    Only to surrender

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    lol, I am the only person here old enough to care to guess about Browne's type? Oh man, that's sad...

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    Quote Originally Posted by heart View Post
    lol, I am the only person here old enough to care to guess about Browne's type? Oh man, that's sad...
    I care, I just don't have any insight into it. So all i could post is "I'm Alive" is a great song.
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    No wild guess based on the lyrics to "I'm Alive?"

    It's all about the fun, no one is gonna get all riled up if you guess way off...if they do they don't really belong in the pop culture folder.

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    Quote Originally Posted by heart View Post
    No wild guess based on the lyrics to "I'm Alive?"

    It's all about the fun, no one is gonna get all riled up if you guess way off...if they do they don't really belong in the pop culture folder.
    Actually, "I'm Alive" seems like an ISFP song to me, but then I could just be biased because I relate to the lyrics so much. And we IxFPs have a lot in common when it comes to the way we feel stuff, so your original guess could be dead on.
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    Well, I would venture a guess at maybe XSFP. The lyrics are more concrete than abstract, and I'm positive that he's some sort of feeler, but I can't tell E or I. Although the lyrics seem Fi, so maybe ISFP?
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    Oh yeah, he is definately an introverted feeler, but I suppose the defining mark is if his songs focus on concrete or abstract types of expressions of feeling? His more political songs appeal to me the most, he seems to see things as they truly are.

    "Pretender" seems to cut right to the heart of the vacuousness of daily life in modern commercial culture.

    thanks to you both for coming to post in my thread.

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    Heart you are scaring me a little.

    I was having a rough morning this past Monday and this song came on.

    No idea what type he is but he's known to be rough with women. INFP?
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    I say that he's more concrete than abstract. I'll compare a couple of verses of his song "For America" to one that I think is a good example of abstract.

    Here's the abstract one:

    "Like a swallow.
    There's no risk.
    I'll whisk them up in no moonlight.
    And though pigs can fly,
    They'll never find us
    Posing as the night,
    And I'm home before the morning."

    In Malta, catch a swallow,
    For all of the guilty--to set them free.
    Wings fill the window,
    And they beat and bleed.


    And here are two verses from "For America" that you posted (I'll post this again for sake of immediate comparison):

    As if freedom was a question of might
    As if loyalty was black and white
    You hear people say it all the time-
    My country wrong or right
    I want to know what that's got to do
    With what it takes to find out whats true
    With everyone from the president on down
    Trying to keep it from you

    The thing I wonder about the dads and moms
    Who send their sons to the vietnams
    Will they really think their way of life
    Has been protected as the next war comes?
    I have prayed for america
    I was made for america
    Her shining dream plays in my mind
    By the rockets red glare
    A generations blank stare
    We better wake her up this time


    I will say that "The Pretender" seems a lot more abstract than "For America", though. Of course, I may just be confusing abstract with "opaque". I still say ISFP.
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    I actually think most ISFP would be probably a little too coincidence theorist to write a song like "For America" but that's just my own personal opinion.

    About Browne's domestic abuse allegations.

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