MBTI Type and Political Affiliation..

[DoctorCroupy#9]

Forgive me if this has been discussed, but the forum search wasn't loading (and even when it does work, it's inaccurate half the time haha).



But anyways, just stumbled upon this:

http://www.slayerment.com/mbti-politics


If you put aside the writer's obvious bias, he seems to make a good point. MBTI and it's relationship to politics is something I've thought about in the past. I've talked to family and friends (that know their type) about their political views over the last year and what I've heard pretty much mirrors this guy's findings:

SJ - generally conservative/Republican
NF - generally liberal/Democrat
SP - split (of people I know, STP lean conservative and SFP lean liberal. The SPs I know were also the least interested in politics.)
NT - tend to have libertarian views


Keep in mind I only know the opinions of 4 to 6 of each temperament, but even from that small pool of people, it lined up surprisingly well with the above.
How does this hold up to what you've seen, and does it describe your view?
Is this all coincidence/stereotype, or does there seem to be some weight to this theory?

 

[RaptorWizard]

I'm self-typed as an NT, and I'm a Humanitarian more than anything.

One of my quotes related to this topic that I live by is as follows:
We should ask what is right before commanding. – As the moral arbiters of things, we need to see the good and decide accordingly.

This basically means that politics at its heart should be about benign systems of justice and understanding.

 

[greenfairy]

I think there may be correlations, but of course it will vary quite a bit. I'm NF and I call myself an anarcho-socialist; but I vote democrat or (if I thought someone had a chance of winning) possibly libertarian. My mom is SJ and she's as liberal as they come, and my SJ best friend is liberal/libertarian, and her SP husband is the same.

Other people I know pretty much fit your descriptions though.

 

[SensEye]

This NT tends to have libertarian views. So confirmed anecdotally.

I would have predicted the above outcome (I even thought to myself, SPs would appear mixed because they aree too busy/don't care about politics) - then I read the link.

 

[baccheion]

I'm a centrist. Would vote Democrat. Probably NT. Could be SP.

The easiest connection I see is with the SJs being conservative. Almost everytime, really! I think perceivers are more likely to be on the liberal end of the spectrum just due to their outlook, but that may be too general.

 

[DoctorCroupy#9]

The easiest connection I see is with the SJs being conservative. Almost everytime, really! I think perceivers are more likely to be on the liberal end of the spectrum just due to their outlook, but that may be too general.

Yeah, that was the most obvious one to me, too. When describing the SJ temperament, you can't help but state ideals that are of a conservative nature.

It's also interesting you point out the J/conservative and P/liberal thing. With the most recent presidential election, the candidates seemed to line up like that:

Romney- ESTJ
Ryan- ENTJ

Obama- ENTP
Biden- ESTP

Of course, there can be endless debate as to what the types of these candidates are, but I've seen them listed this way before and I for the most part agree with it. At the very least with the two Republicans being Js and the Democrats being Ps.

(sidenote: I don't understand how anybody can see Obama as FJ. His 'hope/change' platform and image is FJ, but he's come off as cold and calculating enough since 2008 for me to see the NT. I read a little of his book a while back and he definitely shows a lot of Ne-Ti)

 

[Robopop]

I think one might find a correlation between Te and right wing ideologies and conversely for Fi and left wing ideologies.

TPs seem like they might have tendencies toward libertarianism too.

as an INTP I have more moderate views, I try to avoid highly polarized political views, doesn't mean I'm some kind of relativist though.

 

[Sunny Ghost]

Well, it was right for me. ha. I'm definitely more liberal. But I'm also not very interested in politics. I care about equality.

 

[Speed Gavroche]

SF: tend the most to be left wing
ST: tend the most to be right wing
NF: tend the most to be totalitarian
NT: tend the most to be libertarian

 

[Lark]

I think one might find a correlation between Te and right wing ideologies and conversely for Fi and left wing ideologies.

Why would you do that? It would be mistaken.

 

[Lark]

The correlations of NT and libertarianism is dumb, its the same as the "All NTs are corporate execs or they are not NTs" logic and even poorer thinking that I've encountered on this forum, for a while I'd hoped it was something to do with age group or a pretty superficial but expansive knowledge of MBTI or psychology generally but I'm not even sure of that anymore, I think its just dumb.

And a lot of people are happy being dumb and having as much information as possible to support their dumb opinions.

 

[SensEye]

The correlations of NT and libertarianism is dumb, ...

Why do you say this? I think the correlation is perfectly obvious. NTs should tend towards libertarian views (this does not mean ALL NTs, nor does it mean NTs are strict libertarians, but the general tendancy should be valid).

The key tenant of libertarianism is that people should more or less be left to their own devices as long as they don't stomp all over others in the process. Such an approach seems emminently logical to me in general, so it appeals to my NT worldview although I am not a strict libertarian. I would expect other NTs to feel the same way, and this article seems to confirm my expectation.

 

[Speed Gavroche]

Most NTs are not liberatarian of course. But it seems that there's a bigger proportion of libertarian among them than among any other type.

 

[baccheion]

Why do you say this? I think the correlation is perfectly obvious. NTs should tend towards libertarian views (this does not mean ALL NTs, nor does it mean NTs are strict libertarians, but the general tendancy should be valid).

The key tenant of libertarianism is that people should more or less be left to their own devices as long as they don't stomp all over others in the process. Such an approach seems emminently logical to me in general, so it appeals to my NT worldview although I am not a strict libertarian. I would expect other NTs to feel the same way, and this article seems to confirm my expectation.

Maybe, like a RINO, you'll become a Libertarian in name only. There is more to this thing that the ideals they toss around trying to get supporters. That is, bullshit is right around the corner.

 

[DoctorCroupy#9]

I think there's a correlation between NTs and Libertarian-esque views. It seems pretty obvious to me. Being N leads one to be more abstract and free thinking and less concrete, hence the idea that there should be less government control in social issues. Being T, however, lets them see the logical reasoning behind free market and having complete control over one's assetts. Hence the correlation.

That's VERY generalized, but then again, so is this entire discussion.

 

[ndovjtjcaqidthi]

Cool username OP, I love The Rolling Stones!

 

[DoctorCroupy#9]

Cool username OP, I love The Rolling Stones!

I lol'd

 

[Robopop]

Why would you do that? It would be mistaken.

I'm responding to the subject of the thread by suggesting possible correlations of MBTI and political affiliation, doesn't mean every TJ is a hardcore right wing nut, I recognize political views and the reasons people choose to believe/support/defend them have more causal chains than mere cognitive functions.

 

[Robopop]

The correlations of NT and libertarianism is dumb, its the same as the "All NTs are corporate execs or they are not NTs" logic and even poorer thinking that I've encountered on this forum, for a while I'd hoped it was something to do with age group or a pretty superficial but expansive knowledge of MBTI or psychology generally but I'm not even sure of that anymore, I think its just dumb.

And a lot of people are happy being dumb and having as much information as possible to support their dumb opinions.

So these people who have posted in this thread(including me) are a bunch of idiots because you disagree with the comments, how about instead of acting like a self-righteous know it all try offering counter valid points instead of personally insulting people, I'm so tried of that bullshit on this forum(like in that pathetic Everyday Sexism thread). There are people who are ignorant(we have to start at somewhere) but willing to learn more but when they encounter this crap on this forum it will turn many off and why not.

 

[DoctorCroupy#9]

So these people who have posted in this thread(including me) are a bunch of idiots because you disagree with the comments, how about instead of acting like a self-righteous know it all try offering counter valid points instead of personally insulting people, I'm so tried of that bullshit on this forum(like in that pathetic Everyday Sexism thread). There are people who are ignorant(we have to start at somewhere) but willing to learn more but when they encounter this crap on this forum it will turn many off and why not.

I didn't realize this would be such a touchy subject. Well, I did actually haha, but I figured since this is all just theory and generalizations that nobody would make a big deal out of it and start throwing around opinions like they're fact.

Lark,
considering it is all just theory, and therefore impossible to prove/disprove, I suggest we hop down from that horse and not call people (or their opinions) dumb.