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    ^ is ridiculous.

    As for Bjork, I'd agree with ESFJ... I'm wrong about the ISFJ, I see now. But both Liv and Joanna are ISFPs.

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    just so we understand us, what do you think your (isfp) functions are?

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    ^

    Just because you invariably end your posts with a doesn't mean you're less of a jerk, you know. You've been hostile since your second post in this thread and cowering behind an ISFP label for some unknown reason. I don't have much respect for what you're saying.

    I have zero opinion about you as an individual, so please don't erroneously chalk this up to some ENTP hatred. The number of people I actually concern myself with hating is remarkably limited.


    I... suppose. Yeah!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rajah View Post
    I could say I mean no disrespect, but I'm not subtle and I'm not lying. You all suck at typing.
    Well it is disrespectful, and it has no basis in the theory, saying an ISFP can't write a metaphorical song is like saying an INFJ can't take a beautiful photograph or an ENTP can't care for people or a black person can't play golf, they are blanket statements which are not only disrespectful but just plain incorrect under any reasonable personality theory.

    It's not your conclusion that has bothered me, I could care less if this girl is ISFP or INFJ, I don't know anything about her. It's the assumptions you're using to come to that conclusion, which I feel are completely unnessary and inaccurate.

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    ...and Bjork is irrelevant, if they didn't have similar voices she wouldn't have even been brought up.

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    methaphors come from the logic of emotions anyway. intuition is pseudo visual, but not at all visual in the way a metaphors is. for me, a perception-dominant, they are very secondary. i use them, to create a bridge to people, who have no perceptive vision, or not the same one, that i have. this translation is very vague, ie not lossless at all. a metaphor is usually a static picture. it's neither sensory nor intuitive, but sometimes, metaphors may imply a dynamic functionality. if so, they can be evoked by what ever perceptive function your opponent in communication uses. this way, a metaphor can be a translation link between Ni and Ne people or between Se or Si people.

    dichotomy judgers like FiSe or FiNe can and will create an equal amount of metaphors, if they talk about personal (emotional) experience. but they may statistically talk more or less about different topics, some of which can be handled without metaphors.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Quinlan View Post
    Well it is disrespectful, and it has no basis in the theory, saying an ISFP can't write a metaphorical song is like saying an INFJ can't take a beautiful photograph or an ENTP can't care for people or a black person can't play golf, they are blanket statements which are not only disrespectful but just plain incorrect under any reasonable personality theory.
    Can you not wrap your head around the idea for about five seconds that even if you discount the MBTI theoretically, there may be something to the concept that like-minded people with like abilities answer a core set of questions similarly? That maybe you're just not being rigid enough about categorizing people by what they express? That maybe - just maybe - you're being a bit of an ISFP about the whole thing?


    I... suppose. Yeah!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rajah View Post
    Can you not wrap your head around the idea for about five seconds that even if you discount the MBTI theoretically,
    I'm not talking about discounting MBTI theory, I'm saying that within MBTI theory as far as I know ability has never been taken into account. Whatever theory you seem to be using, dictates what types can and can't do, that is not MBTI. People with the same preferences can develop in a multitude of different ways, they can be nutured or neglected, if someone of any type really applied themselves they could find many varied areas where they can achieve. Having an MBTI type is not a handicap.

    there may be something to the concept that like-minded people with like abilities answer a core set of questions similarly? That maybe you're just not being rigid enough about categorizing people by what they express? That maybe - just maybe - you're being a bit of an ISFP about the whole thing?
    Maybe I am, funny that, but if you really do not want to cause offense (maybe you don't mind?) or if you really want to understand other people (maybe you don't?) then you should delve a little deeper than blanket statements.

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    Not only that, but THEORETICALLY, it is very likely that her writing says "ISFP" -- how does it not? Who else writes so profusely descriptively ABOUT nature and surroundings and is like a little child all grown up? Honestly. That is by-the-book ISFP. I know many INFJs and am close with them. I would know if she were, it would be obvious. I grew up not only drawing and playing music and singing but also writing, writing, writing, writing...

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    Quote Originally Posted by nanook View Post
    just so we understand us, what do you think your (isfp) functions are?
    Fi, Se, Ni, Te (MBTI)

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