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    Harry is an ISFP.

    Luke is just very YNe.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jennifer View Post
    I disagree on Luke (he still seems clearly N to me -- i mean, can you imagine an N N'ing out on Tatooine? His entire existence HAS to develop his S side, but he's "always dreaming of the stars" and epic quests, etc.).
    To quote Yoda about Luke: "All his life has he looked away... to the future, to the horizon. Never his mind on where he was. Hmm? What he was doing. Hmph. Adventure. Heh. Excitement. Heh. A Jedi craves not these things..."

    Which sounds like an N not finding enough to engage with in the present and living in the future via daydreams. I do think Luke as ISFP is at least arguable, though... ISFPs have a similar restlessness, but not always with the same future orientation.

    Quote Originally Posted by Jennifer View Post
    However, I agree with you on Harry. ISFP is probably the best read. It's funny to see him get outraged when his principles are violated, although otherwise he's pretty steady.
    I don't see Harry as INFP at all. I agree with ISFP.

    Quote Originally Posted by Saturned View Post
    Luke is just very YNe.
    So YNe, especially in Episode IV: "“But I wanted to go to Tosche Station to pick up some power converters!" which translates roughly as "Whine whine whine whine WHINE whine!!!"

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    Harry is a 1w9 Sx/Sp.
    Luke is a 9w1 Sx/Sp.

    They could be both INFP

    However, Harry P, seems more grounded and practical, with a limited vision, sounds S. Or maybe it's just the tertiary Si.
    Luke may be more visionary and big picture oriented, more N.

    I didn't read or watch something of Harry P since almost ten years, so i don't remember enough to say.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Speed Gavroche View Post
    Harry is a 1w9 Sx/Sp.
    Luke is a 9w1 Sx/Sp.

    They could be both INFP

    However, Harry P, seems more grounded and practical, with a limited vision, sounds S. Or maybe it's just the tertiary Si.
    Luke may be more visionary and big picture oriented, more N.

    I didn't read or watch something of Harry P since almost ten years, so i don't remember enough to say.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Seymour View Post
    So YNe, especially in Episode IV: "“But I wanted to go to Tosche Station to pick up some power converters!" which translates roughly as "Whine whine whine whine WHINE whine!!!"
    I think Luke's YNe-ness is the most obvious and dominant part of his character, and the function that he enjoys most using, at least early in the trilogy. Later, we see him become more tempered, as his gooFi-ness begins to get a hold and he starts idealizing his father in terms that sound almost insane. But at least that kind of diversity is far more endurable than his initial raw YNe-ness.

    YNe-ness is also expressed in comments like:
    - But Aunt Beru, I don't WANT to eat another helping of rehydrated brussel sprouts!
    - Chewbacca cheats at 3D space chess all the time, and every time I complain, he threatens to pull off my arms!
    - Ben, can you please stop using my toothbrush as a beard straightener?
    - But these AREn'T the droids you're looking for. They aren't, they aren't, they AREN'T!!!! *stamps feet*
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    I know one thing they both have in common... MAGIC POWERS!!!

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    Sorry to get all irritatingly subjective but if Luke and Harry were INFPs I would have felt a strong degree of familiarity in their characters, and I didn't. They don't seem INFP at all to me - they so much more driven by the literal world and not by a inner world of perception - there are no real mental leaps (Ne) involved, just skilled responsiveness to the moment (Se). Yeah, Luke goes all zen in his Jedi training but to point this out as evidence that he is N is to say all Jedis must be N - besides, meditation techniques of clearing the mind and focusing the body are used by both Sensors and Intuitives.

    I find the arguments for ISFP to be quite convincing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Seymour View Post
    To quote Yoda about Luke: "All his life has he looked away... to the future, to the horizon. Never his mind on where he was. Hmm? What he was doing. Hmph. Adventure. Heh. Excitement. Heh. A Jedi craves not these things..."

    Which sounds like an N not finding enough to engage with in the present and living in the future via daydreams. I do think Luke as ISFP is at least arguable, though... ISFPs have a similar restlessness, but not always with the same future orientation.
    I think this is merely about being a restless Perceiver. A ISFP craving adventure would look to the future too if he were bored by his current situation.

    Besides isn't the former pupil Yoda is talking about meant to be Anakin/Dark Vader? I think he is merely drawing comparisons between Luke and Anakin's restlessness. I looked the scene up and it's only at the beginning of when Luke and Yoda meet - where Luke is asking to be trained (ie. he doesn't know much about Luke beyond what he senses). And a few lines before, Yoda speaks more about patience.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Elfboy View Post
    Luke is So/Sx.
    No. Yoda is 9w1 So/Sx.

    [youtube=3A_uOaA3e_0]Star Wars: Yoda's Training and Wisdom[/youtube]

    Luke don't have problems to withdrawn from the group to follow a personal quest. He's the intense seeker and wanderer, easily going to the dark. He's reckless, sometimes too much for his own good, and is dramatic in most of his actions and stance. He fight for a casue, but was originally reluctant about this and is insular by nature.

    Yoda is fantastical and has a lot of thrills and is directly immmersed in the larger world. He used to be a social figure and withdrawn only for the interest of the social cause. He doen's have the Sx leanings to be too much single-minded and focused like Luke does, but he is a self-pres last, the way he lives on Dagobah and even on Curuscant shows that in doesn't give a fuck about confort and safety.

    Luke is similar with Cyclops or James Dean. Yoda is simliar with the pope John Paul II.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Speed Gavroche View Post
    No. Yoda is 9w1 So/Sx.
    Luke is not So last. he is service oriented, cares about fitting in, feels a sense of obligation toward the group and rarely if ever considers self preservation. on top of that, he is nothing like the 9w1 Sx/Sp videos I've seen. his focus is much more broad than the intense, narrowed in focus of an Sx/Sp. I think he very well could be, and probably is the same E-type as Yoda. Sx/Sp is more intense and less concerned with worldly affairs (Anakin, a real Sx/Sp, is a good example of this, even if Anakin is probably more so being 8w7 as opposed to 9w1)
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