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    I haven't seen this show in a long time, but going from memory, I agree that Xander is an ENTP.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BlahBlahNounBlah View Post
    I haven't seen this show in a long time, but going from memory, I agree that Xander is an ENTP.
    yeah i can see ENTP for Xander but i was more inlcinded to thinking he's ENFP because he's relationship focused. ..?

    either one. i suppose you'd recognise an entp better than i would.

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    On Xander:

    I can't really see an ENTP playing anyone's "buttmonkey" so convincingly (he was entranced in the episode, but I got the feeling that the line was more loaded than that). I agree with ENFP, even though his wicked, off-the-wall sense of humor could make ENTP a tempting choice.

    He has a vulnerable quality and even though he is snarky, he makes at least as many comments about his own patheticness as anyone else's. He may have a strong sense of moral superiority (especially in contrast to Angel and Spike), but he was not self-aggrandizing or too cocky. He was the "heart" of the group in the S4 finale (well, aside from Restless) and his conventional romantic attitudes and vulnerability often contrasted with Cordy's ice queen act and were a foil to Anya's uncompromising bluntness. Plus, he was the ultimate sad puppydog in the friendzone for quite a while there which is not something that screams ENTP to me, at least. Not that it doesn't happen to all types, it's just that lovelorn obsession seems more like unhealthy xNFP.

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    Angel is everything except an easygoing person.

    Xander does'nt interact the most spontaneously with people in an affective way. He's rather a sarcastical and cynical joker who does'nt take the sadness of his life too personally. He's a man of principle who values the group interest (Ti+Fe) above the personal (Fi). There's many Ti-Fe/Fi conflicts between Xander and Buffy, when for example, Buffy want to give his soul to Angel back.

    Tara is more likely an ISFJ. I just don't see the N at all in her. She's behind-the-scene and not chart-the-course and less shy to express her sensuality than to express her convictions. She's not enough indivualistic and brain oriented to be an INFJ, and lean toward a simple life, wich sounds mor S than N.

    Buffy is not an ISFP, she has a too strong Te and her Ni is somewhat unexistent or oppressive, leading her to dark anxiety. Her Ni is an inferior functions which give her acurate intuitions sometimes, that's the way how ESPs deal with Ni, but not really ISPs. Buffy is independant and rather reserved but seek above all to have relationships, before to become the Slayer, she was the typical popular ESFP chick, and she dream to can be again like this. At the begining of the show, she wants to can have a "normal journey", that's Se, not Fi. She's easily more despressed when she has no boyfriend and it's difficult for her to imagine to have not. She's rather an extrovert who feels misfortune that don't be able to hallow time for her family and friend, than an Introvert.

    Elsewhere, Joss Whedon has told he's exploit and embezzle stereotypes to create Buffy. She's obviously, an embezzlment of the stereotype of the blond chick chased by vampires. She's also an embezzlment of the slayer archetype himself, because the typical slayer seems to be ISTJ (see Kendra, Nikki Wood): loner, focused on her mission only, neglect every affective side, follows rules, procedures, authorithy, manuals consigns... Buffy, her, is the opposite (even she's though a sensor), she has a strong circle and friend which form with Joyce and Dawn her true family and so she's not a loner and it's exceptional among slayers, making them one of the most powerfull who have never lived. She's also independant, values her emotions and feelings (Fi), and action rather than procedures and rules of the manuals (Se). In an MBTI approach, we can say also that she's an embezzlment of the ESFP stupid myth.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aerithria View Post
    Hm. Can't really see it. He stirs the pot for the sake of it rather than to actually accomplish something, and some of the things he pulls are pointless and more for the sake of his enjoyment (such as turning Giles into a demon) than anything else.
    Yeah, OK for ENTP, I've edit my post.

    I could see either, to be honest. A lot of what you mentioned can be attributed to Se alone, along with the fact that he is a vampire. I maintain that he's an ESFP with poorly developed Fi (hence, his focus on people and his unhealthy obsession with love), but I could see ESTP with an unhealthy Fe tertiary.
    Ok, see that:

    -Very physical person, a doer who live the life to the fullest
    SP
    -Like challenges, especially physicals challenges (including, to slay slayers)
    SP
    -Cocky and funny , witty, clever and fun with a dry, sarcastic sense of humor, loves practical jokes
    STP
    -Very high analytical skills and aptitude to understand complex systems and relationships, uses this as leverage for efficiency and manipulation of peoples, but sometime too impatient and acts without reflect enough to avoid some errors
    Ti+SE, STP but he's not so impatient.

    -A in-charge person who's likely to lead peoples in a crisis, he've a very high P side though, wich tempered his in-charge side and strengthens his go-with-the-flow side
    Actually, he's not very in-charge. I've say this
    because he has employed many vampires and deamons, but he's nor really in-charge. He have seemed to be in School Hard but he's above all a man who want to do a job, and vampires follow him, he's a good leader, but more at ease when he act alone. He've clearly the quite go-with-the-flow ISP attitude+selfishness=ISTP

    -Live in the present and doesn't want to take confining commitments, prefer to keep every options openend and his freedom, his independence and his spontaneity rather than work for stupids visions of transformation (like "give hell on Earth")
    SP

    -Does'nt respect any rules but his own, act faithfully according to his own principles
    ISTP
    -Likes to tell truthfull speechs, especially when the truth hurts
    TP
    -Likes the fine sensors pleasures of the life like cigarettes, bear or chocolate, popular culture like Star Wars, Charlie Brown and Soap Opera like Passions and, of course, punk bands like The Sex Pistols or The Ramones
    SP
    -Has a lust for violence, seeing it as therapeutic, doesn't caring about who's fighting with, just love the fight without values judgments
    STP
    -Acts according to his own interests above all, but is faithfull for women he loves (like Dru or Buffy) or for the ones he has a deep affection (like Dawn who's taken by Spike as a "little sister", or Joyce who has always be kind with him and never treat him like a monster), is very obssesed by the ones he loves, but less trust his capacities for flirt than his strength and his analytical skills to own success, like in any situations
    Ti/Fe balance
    -Is almost the opposite of Angel
    He is the opposite of Angel


    So, my guess is: ESTP ISTP

    I could see him as an ISFP, but I think he's not because he's more confident with his analyticals skills rather than his skills for flirt. And the fact that he has feelings is not an argument, evry people have. He deals more with it in a Ti-Fe balance than Fi, and if he would have the choice, he would prefer to don't feel anything.

    As for your new list, I don't have much disagreement besides what I've already mentioned, but I'd have pegged Liam to be an ESTP as opposed to ISTP (for the brief moment we see him).
    I think Angel is actually evrytime an ENFJ. ENFJ can be mistype with ESTP sometimes, and he's not really an introvert. His adventures in the show Angel reveal his In-Charge nature. Superficially, Angel could look like an ISTP, but actually we coud'nt be more diffrents. Spike is a true ISTP, him. Darla is more an ESTP, she's too worried with the group projects and the Master's opinion to be ISTP, I think.

    EDIT: Wait, do you have the Master as INFJ?
    Yes, I think the Master is a combination of powerfull vision (Ni), high social skills (Fe), and strong logic (Ti). The typical INFJ villain (looks a little like Adolf Hitler).
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    Quote Originally Posted by Speed Gavroche View Post
    Xander does'nt interact the most spontaneously with people in an affective way. He's rather a sarcastical and cynical joker who does'nt take the sadness of his life too personally. He's a man of principle who values the group interest (Ti+Fe) above the personal (Fi). There's many Ti-Fe/Fi conflicts between Xander and Buffy, when for example, Buffy want to give his soul to Angel back.
    Xander doesn't seem to think much of his Ti if it is very strong. He's not stupid, but he's not always the most careful thinker. I wouldn't call him cerebral. I have a hard time believing that an ENTP would view themselves the way Xander does: he was highly insecure about his intelligence for most of the show.

    “Bitca”, 'nough said.

    Buffy: I'm the only one that can pass the retinal scan.
    Xander: The — Eww! I don't wanna see that!
    Buffy: Retinal scan, Xander.

    Xander: I'm twice the fool it takes to do something like this.

    Xander: I kind of had a problem with the math.
    Willow: Which part?
    Xander: The math.

    Willow: You're not gonna be young forever.
    Xander: Yes, but I'll always be stupid.

    Buffy: This is stupid.
    Xander: Stupid. So you finally had the guts to say it to my face.

    I also always read his concern about Angel in particular as more than a little self interested: there was probably some jealousy and personal resentment. This isn't a particularly Ti approach to a dilemma. It was pretty hard to tell his jealousy from his moral outrage in the first couple of seasons. He also seems to have a very low tolerance for moral ambiguity only when it suits him (Anya, as was pointed out in Selfless, was an exception to him. She was a former murderer who had not expressed a great deal of remorse, even if she was technically human.) He's not exactly a coolly detached guy.

    On Oz (after escape from cage and Cordelia reporting that he killed someone)
    “Oz does not eat people. It's more werewolf play. You know, I bat you around a little bit, like a cat toy. I have harmless, wolf fun. Is it Oz's fault that, you know, side effect, people get cut to ribbons, and maybe then he'll take a little nibble and...I'm not helping, am I?”

    On Angel (after escape from hell dimension)
    “I think you're harboring a vicious killer...I don't need an excuse. I think lots of dead people actually constitutes a reason.”

    Yes, I realize I'm outing myself as a major Buffy geek by typing this much about one character.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Speed Gavroche View Post
    Yes, I think the Master is a combination of powerfull vision (Ni), high social skills (Fe), and strong logic (Ti). The typical INFJ villain (looks a little like Adolf Hitler).
    high social skills? you've got to be kidding me

    also, you can't be sure that Hitler is an INFJ

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jane View Post
    Xander doesn't seem to think much of his Ti if it is very strong. He's not stupid, but he's not always the most careful thinker. I wouldn't call him cerebral. I have a hard time believing that an ENTP would view themselves the way Xander does: he was highly insecure about his intelligence for most of the show.

    “Bitca”, 'nough said.

    Buffy: I'm the only one that can pass the retinal scan.
    Xander: The — Eww! I don't wanna see that!
    Buffy: Retinal scan, Xander.

    Xander: I'm twice the fool it takes to do something like this.

    Xander: I kind of had a problem with the math.
    Willow: Which part?
    Xander: The math.

    Willow: You're not gonna be young forever.
    Xander: Yes, but I'll always be stupid.

    Buffy: This is stupid.
    Xander: Stupid. So you finally had the guts to say it to my face.

    I also always read his concern about Angel in particular as more than a little self interested: there was probably some jealousy and personal resentment. This isn't a particularly Ti approach to a dilemma. It was pretty hard to tell his jealousy from his moral outrage in the first couple of seasons. He also seems to have a very low tolerance for moral ambiguity only when it suits him (Anya, as was pointed out in Selfless, was an exception to him. She was a former murderer who had not expressed a great deal of remorse, even if she was technically human.) He's not exactly a coolly detached guy.

    On Oz (after escape from cage and Cordelia reporting that he killed someone)
    “Oz does not eat people. It's more werewolf play. You know, I bat you around a little bit, like a cat toy. I have harmless, wolf fun. Is it Oz's fault that, you know, side effect, people get cut to ribbons, and maybe then he'll take a little nibble and...I'm not helping, am I?”

    On Angel (after escape from hell dimension)
    “I think you're harboring a vicious killer...I don't need an excuse. I think lots of dead people actually constitutes a reason.”

    Yes, I realize I'm outing myself as a major Buffy geek by typing this much about one character.



    Okay, I haven't seen this show in years, so I think you're right. Changing my guess to ENFP.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Speed Gavroche View Post
    So, my guess is: ESTP ISTP

    I could see him as an ISFP, but I think he's not because he's more confident with his analyticals skills rather than his skills for flirt. And the fact that he has feelings is not an argument, evry people have. He deals more with it in a Ti-Fe balance than Fi, and if he would have the choice, he would prefer to don't feel anything.
    Yeah, forget what I said about him. I've been rewatching it, and I see little to no trace of Fi within him. Agreed on ISTP (though I think he's probably dancing on the I/E borderline).

    I think Angel is actually evrytime an ENFJ. ENFJ can be mistype with ESTP sometimes, and he's not really an introvert. His adventures in the show Angel reveal his In-Charge nature. Superficially, Angel could look like an ISTP, but actually we coud'nt be more diffrents. Spike is a true ISTP, him. Darla is more an ESTP, she's too worried with the group projects and the Master's opinion to be ISTP, I think.
    I actually had Liam and Angel typed differently. I saw Liam as an ESTP and Angel as an INFJ, though I could see ENFJ as well (sometimes).

    Darla the vampire is definitely ESTP. I don't remember a lot about Darla the human's character, but I think her type may differ somewhat.

    Yes, I think the Master is a combination of powerfull vision (Ni), high social skills (Fe), and strong logic (Ti). The typical INFJ villain (looks a little like Adolf Hitler).
    Eh, I rarely watch season 1, so I'm not going to challenge that. Though I'm not sure I agree.

    And I don't really want to debate Hitler's type (there are plenty of threads on that already), but I still think he's an ENFJ.

    Quote Originally Posted by Jane View Post
    I also always read his concern about Angel in particular as more than a little self interested: there was probably some jealousy and personal resentment. This isn't a particularly Ti approach to a dilemma. It was pretty hard to tell his jealousy from his moral outrage in the first couple of seasons. He also seems to have a very low tolerance for moral ambiguity only when it suits him (Anya, as was pointed out in Selfless, was an exception to him. She was a former murderer who had not expressed a great deal of remorse, even if she was technically human.) He's not exactly a coolly detached guy.
    Heh, definitely. I really doubt a Ti user would disapprove of a plan that allows them to restrain their enemy from a distance without having to engage in combat just because Buffy happened to have a particular personal interest in said plan.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BlahBlahNounBlah View Post


    Okay, I haven't seen this show in years, so I think you're right. Changing my guess to ENFP.
    If only I knew how easily I could make you cave. It's been a while since I've seen a Buffy episode - about 2 years. I just brushed up on some quotes I remembered. I didn't know how much I missed that show.

    I'll start watching again and try to type the characters as I go. I didn't know about MBTI when I first viewed the series, so it should be kind of fun to go back and see what I notice. I'll post my impressions here. I'm not sure I agree with how many of the characters have been typed in this thread from what I remember, but, again, it's been an awfully long time.

    I'm keeping a list of the typings that others in this thread have given the characters to keep them in mind when I watch.

    This is how I type them according to what I remember. It will be interesting to see what changes upon rewatching. This is only a partial list of the ones I bothered to remember.

    - Anya S3: xNTJ (Had a very different impression of her character in season 3, but I'll have to take a look)
    - Anya S4 on: ESTJ (No question)
    - Joyce: ISFJ (Conventional mom, had trouble being flexible with Buffy's teenageness and slayerness at first; was introverted and kept close to her family, dating little after Buffy's dad left)
    - Willow: INFJ
    - Xander: ENFP
    - Tara: IxFx
    - Season 1-6 Buffy: xSFP
    - Season 7 Buffy: (More J-ish, but she had to be.)
    - Faith: xSTP (Leaning ESTP, like a lot of posters)
    - Oz: IxTP (Leaning INTP)
    - Riley: xSxJ
    - Early Series Giles: ISTJ (More a stuffy foil earlier on, later a more intuitive and open-minded father figure)
    - Later Series Giles: INTJ
    - Angel: INxJ (Read Sartre: his emotional intensity could be INTJ Fi or INFJ... I'm leaning INFJ because of his hero complex)
    - Angelus: ENTx (Leaning ENTJ)
    - Liam: ESTP
    - William the Bloody Awful Poet: MINE.... erm, INFP (He's practically the epitome of the type at its woobiest)
    - Spike: xSxP (I'm seeing the Fi here, but if others aren't, I need to take another look)
    - Drusilla: xNFx (I would say that Ni seems to be her thing, but she's a little off-the-wall and bubbly for an NFJ - I would almost lean ENFP at this point for all her insane rambling and impishness)
    - Darla: ESTP
    - Dawn: xNFP (Thinks she's awkward and dorky, very emotional, a little directionless until Season 7)
    - Andrew: ExFP
    - Jonathan: INFP
    - Warren: INTJ
    - Harmony: ESFx (Unicorns! Leaning toward ESFP, but don't remember if she's more J-ish when she's the Libby at SD High)
    - Clem: xxFP
    - Ethan Rayne: ExxP
    - Master: xNxJ
    - The Judge: xxTJ (The J is kind of mandatory)
    - Principal Snyder: IxTJ
    - Principal Flutie: xxFx
    - The Mayor: ESTJ (Outgoing, “upright” citizen who hates cursing, but shrugs off selling his soul)
    - Sunday: xxTP (I almost want to go with ExTP, but it's been so long since I've seen Freshmen)
    - Maggie Walsh: INTJ
    - Adam: xxTJ
    - Glory: ESFP (Too preoccupied with her shoes and bossing around her minions to do much planning)
    - Ben: is Glory? Is there a type for wuss?
    - Rack: xNTx
    - Caeleb: xxxJ? (I wasn't too invested in Season 7 when I first watched)
    - The First: Does evil have a type?

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