The first part is true. But ESFP is not a label I put on things I dislike. It is merely the best four-letter description of my perception of his character.
I never said you did slap an ESFP label on things you don't like; my comment is that your visceral dislike for the character is resulting in a distortion of perception, as best as I can tell. I have to be aware of my own as well and take that into account.
Well, that is your perception and concepts against mine. Obviously, I think mine are more accurate, not to mention more fresh.
Obviously.
(Or you would change and accommodate my opinion.)
Five years ago, when you had seen five episodes.
I meant what I posted earlier this morning, that you had such a strong reaction to.
You are a gentleman and a scholar.
Okay, I can't keep doing this with a straight face, at this point I'm laughing.
I can't stand him either, and I agree with this- especially the bolded. I seem to remember liking him at first, a bit, but by the end of the series I found his character repulsive.
It's been a couple years since I watched the show, but I seem to remember thinking that he was at least Pe aux if not Pe dom. He needs things on the outside to define him- not in a Je way, but in the gluttonous and hedonistic Pe way. It's a trait of narcissism for someone to be able to stop "caring" on a dime and that's exactly how he is. He just uses people. He thinks he cares about them- but it's more like something he's trying on in a mirror than actually caring. He's not in touch with his own feelings at all, so he's not capable of authentically caring about others. He's just impulsively bouncing from one thing that he thinks will feel good to the next. Once someone isn't useful to him- which is to say, the 'potential' of being committed to them no longer seems like it will bring happiness- he couldn't care less how much he hurts them (regardless of how much he previously claimed to "love" them). And that's what Pe dominance looks like when at the mercy of unconscious impulses (when the unconscious impulses hold most or all of the strings): gluttonously experiencing the external world and rationalizing away any obligation to others.
So anyway, I agree with Pe dominance- specifically because of the way he uses people (Je dom/aux can use people too, it just looks different)- but I don't have much opinion outside that.
Just to make things amusing, I think this kind of behavior shows up most easily in the FPs (which includes ESFP and INFP). Anyway, I agree he's not a Je Dom/Aux.
Maybe that's what I was responding to, especially later in the series when it becomes more obvious -- that he cares less about people and more about himself at core, he's using people in order to figure himself out and "see what works" for him. It's a form of usury. At that later stage, once Brenda got out of her sex-addiction funk, I felt like she actually was genuinely trying to reach out and connect and just being terrible at it because she just didn't know how, nor had had any real relationships that she could use as a template. And for a long time, I think she had been looking to Nate to teach her this, but he no longer cared to / was unable to since he himself only possessed an image of it.
