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    Quote Originally Posted by Elfboy View Post
    I could see either ENFP or ISFP,
    Why not ESFP?

    I've met INFP 1s, 2s, 4s, 6s, and even an INFP 7 and INFP 3. none of them were like that, at least externally. an INFP is likely to feel these things, but they are not likely to do much about it, at least, not in the form and to the extent to which Joan did. she was like a freaking warrior princess

    Yeah. It's weird that Joan of Arc was so much associated with a reckless, restless, overactive super religious and super patriotic woman like that, while most past of INFP here are quiet, individualistic, atheist etc. Actually, she made me more think ESFJ, since they are supposed to be the most religious and patriotic type. But she was a pragmatic improvisers, didn't care about procedures. So, ESFP.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Elfboy View Post
    she just seems far to responsive, directing, choleric pragmatic, verbally quick on her feet and outwardly expressive to be Fi dom and inferior Te.
    I've seen IXFPs do this when things came down to the wire. When it calls for defending "that one THING" to the bitter end, they can rocket that Te right to the front. Unlike other types, it seems to me that they can keep this up for a good while.

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    I don't see why it's so surprising to conceive of INFPs in this way. They're not reserved when their ideals are threatened.


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    I do like speculation of this sort, but I always find historical figures to be of a rather fuzzy nature, except those we have more recent information on.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rajah View Post
    I don't see why it's so surprising to conceive of INFPs in this way. They're not reserved when their ideals are threatened.
    Joan of Arc was overall unreserved, not in specific situations. She didn't repress Te, therefore she's not IFP.
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    Yeah, if you rationalize her manifold un-INFP traits to fit with INFP anyway, then the entire idea of types loses meaning.
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    @Speed Gavroche
    it's possible
    but she seemed to internally bizarre to be an ESFP. I have trouble seeing her as an S dom
    also, you're totally right about how strikingly different she is from the INFPs on this forum. they don't seem anything like her at all
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    I've never seen an INFP keep up such an aggressive lifestyle for such a long period of time. it would drain their energy reserves like a granary in a famine
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    Quote Originally Posted by Elfboy View Post
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    I've never seen an INFP keep up such an aggressive lifestyle for such a long period of time. it would drain their energy reserves like a granary in a famine
    I see you one Hitler. There has been a ton of discussion on this forum regarding his type, and I remain convinced he's an INFP. (And, yes, I Godwinned this thing.) He was deeply principled - with really repugnant, racist, unfortunate principles, but principles nonetheless, which he pursued doggedly. I'm guessing I don't need to convince you he was aggressive.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Elfboy View Post
    I've never seen an INFP keep up such an aggressive lifestyle for such a long period of time. it would drain their energy reserves like a granary in a famine
    You have absolutely no idea then the amount of energy and passion that an INFP can muster when they feel defend or follow an ideal.
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