Palpatine

[Mal12345]

You just said that 6 and 8 can both be agressive, but you did not explain how theses two types differ to each other. I explained how they differ, and Anakin is a 8.

Your feebles skills can't match with me.

I linked you to an entire page describing the differences. They can both be aggressive AT LEVEL 6. This is nothing new, the same info appears in Personality Types.

I have decided that this is the main difference in archetypal terms -

Type 8 is the authoritarian Boss type; type 6 is the anti-authoritarian Rebel type.

According to that page (and Jennifer explained this also), the Type 6 has problems with controlling impulses, the type 8 on the other hand is in control of him or herself at all times. The type 8 does not lash out wildly. The type 8 does not force-choke anybody out of impulse. The type 8 has a plan and sticks to it, even if that plan is murderous. The type 6, at that level, has lost control.

 

[RaptorWizard]

I linked you to an entire page describing the differences. They can both be aggressive AT LEVEL 6. This is nothing new, the same info appears in Personality Types.

I have decided that this is the main difference in archetypal terms -

Type 8 is the authoritarian Boss type; type 6 is the anti-authoritarian Rebel type.

According to that page (and Jennifer explained this also), the Type 6 has problems with controlling impulses, the type 8 on the other hand is in control of him or herself at all times. The type 8 does not lash out wildly. The type 8 does not force-choke anybody out of impulse. The type 8 has a plan and sticks to it, even if that plan is murderous. The type 6, at that level, has lost control.

Are there some phobic 6s that are traditionalists and some counter-phobic 6s that are rebels, or can they be both?

 

[Speed Gavroche]

8s are anti-authoritarians and rebels too.

You did not prove anything.

 

[Mal12345]

8s are anti-authoritarians and rebels too.

You did not prove anything.

No they are not, they are the authority not the anti-authoritarian rebel. Come meet my boss and then explain to me in what way he is anti-authority.

"I don't believe in guilt, I only believe in living on impulses" describes Anakin toward the end.

 

[Mal12345]

Are there some phobic 6s that are traditionalists and some counter-phobic 6s that are rebels, or can they be both?

Counter-phobics such as Anakin are far more likely to lash out against authority. Phobics keep their aggressive impulsives internalized.

 

[Speed Gavroche]

No they are not, they are the authority not the anti-authoritarian rebel.

Anakin is pretty at ease in authority roles. Watch the animated serie Clones Wars.

Also:

If 8s are in a subordonate position, they will minimize the power that the authority have on them. They'll push the limits of the rules.

6s rebel against authority, 8s are stronger than the authority. That's Anakin, and he is not afraid by anyone, that's his focus, always, not only at the end of the movie.

 

[Mal12345]

Anakin is pretty at ease in authority roles. Watch the animated serie Clones Wars.

I'm not interested in animated series or comic books, thanks anyway. So what if Anakin takes the leadership role in a cartoon. You're so involved in your fantasy world that you forget these aren't real people, and that their characters are written by different people.

Also:

Yes?

6s rebel against authority, 8s are stronger than the authority. That's Anakin, and he is not afraid by anyone, that's his focus, always, not only at the end of the movie.

Anakin is self-deluded by the end of the movie. He brags that he can take Palpatine, but he can't even take Obi-wan.

 

[RaptorWizard]

To cheat death is a power only one has achieved but if we work together perhaps we can discover the secret.
Palpatine to Anakin

 

[Mal12345]

To cheat death is a power only one has achieved but if we work together perhaps we can discover the secret.
Palpatine to Anakin

He certainly cheated death, didn't he.

 

[RaptorWizard]

He certainly cheated death, didn't he.

He gave Anakin a false promise like the demons do to serve his own selfish ends when in reality he had no idea what he was talking about.

 

[RaptorWizard]

The being of great power who could cheat death and even wreaked the experiment which birthed Anakin was the ultimate Sith Lord Darth Plageuis, who I saw on one thread was INTJ like Darth Sidious.

 

[Mal12345]

He gave Anakin a false promise like the demons do to serve his own selfish ends when in reality he had no idea what he was talking about.

Palpatine opportunistically preyed upon Anakin's worst fears and insecurities.

 

[Speed Gavroche]

Gerge L supervised Clone Wars, so that the Anakin's personality is coherent with the movie. And self-delusion is the typical characteristic of 8.

You're wrong.

 

[Mal12345]

Gerge L supervised Clone Wars, so that the Anakin's personality is coherent with the movie. And self-delusion is the typical characteristic of 8.

You're wrong.

"You're wrong, you failed, you lose," sounds like Anakin talking.

 

[Speed Gavroche]

That's just the truth.

If you only have that to defend your point...

 

[Mal12345]

That's just the truth.

If you only have that to defend your point...

Even if Anakin took a leadership role in some cartoon created by GL on CartoonNetwork, it has no relevance to anything. Are you bored or something?

 

[Speed Gavroche]

There's relevance that he is a 8. There's no relevance that he is a 6. And everything you said tryng to prove that he is a 6 is not especially Type 6-related. Everithing I said explaining you why you are wrong are Type 8 related.

So he is a 8.

 

[Mal12345]

There's relevance that he is a 8. There's no relevance that he is a 6. And everything you said tryng to prove that he is a 6 is not especially Type 6-related. Everithing I said explaining you why you are wrong are Type 8 related.

So he is a 8.

Those are mere assertions. Anakin's erratic behavior proves that he's a 6. Palpatine's well-planned strategizing proves that he's an 8.

 

[Speed Gavroche]

[8] see themselves as protectors. They see themselves as a shield for their friends and for the inncents protecting them with their own body, finghting agains injustice at the same time

That's Anakin. And for Palpatine, 6s can be planner too. But Palpatine is afraid in fight, Anakin is not. Palpatine is a 6, Anakin is an 8.

 

[Mal12345]

That's Anakin. And for Palpatine, 6s can be planner too. But Palpatine is afraid in fight, Anakin is not. Palpatine is a 6, Anakin is an 8.

Chancellor Palpatine is hiding the fact that he's a Sith Lord. Yeah, he sure seemed afraid when he attacked Mace Windu and two other opponents at the same time. Right.