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    Quote Originally Posted by Elfboy View Post
    correlations:
    Lawful: SJ, NFJ, Social Instinct, 1s, 2s,
    Neutral: 3s, 5s 6s, 9s
    Chaotic: NP, SP NTJ, Sexual Instinct, 4s 7s, 8s,

    Good: NF, SJ, Social Instinct, 1, 2
    Neutral: Self Preservation Instinct, NT, 5, 7, 9
    Bad: SP, 3, cp6, 8
    I'm going to agree with what SuchIrony said here:
    Quote Originally Posted by SuchIrony View Post
    I agree with most of this. I don't see NTJ as being chaotic though. I also think phobic 6s can be quite lawful.
    I'd modify your list as such:

    correlations:
    Lawful: SJ, FJ, NFJ, Social Instinct, 1s, 2s, p6s
    Neutral: 3s, 5s, 6s, 9s, NTJ, TJ
    Chaotic: NP, SP, Sexual Instinct, 4s, cp6s, 7s, 8s

    Good: NF, SJ, SFJ, Social Instinct, 1s, 2s, p6s, 9s
    Neutral: Self Preservation Instinct, T, 5s, 7s, 9s
    Bad: SP, 3s, cp6s, 8s
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hazashin View Post
    I'm going to agree with what SuchIrony said here:
    I'd modify your list as such:
    - STJs are usually Lawful, not Neutral
    - I already included SFJs (all SJs) under "Good"
    - you included 9s twice
    - you included NFJs twice
    - you included STJs twice
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    Quote Originally Posted by Elfboy View Post
    - STJs are usually Lawful, not Neutral
    My reasoning for that was that Te is a pragmatic function and goes with "whatever works", but I suppose STJs, especially ISTJs, are more Lawful. I guess you can make it NTJ, then.

    - I already included SFJs (all SJs) under "Good"
    True; I must have skipped over that.

    - you included 9s twice
    You're right. They correlate with both Good AND Neutral.

    - you included NFJs twice
    I probably should have just left it at FJ, but I guess I was focusing on distinguishing between NTJ and NFJ.

    - you included STJs twice
    Where?
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    Fi > Ne > Ti > Fe > Se > Si > Te > Ni

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hazashin View Post
    My reasoning for that was that Te is a pragmatic function and goes with "whatever works", but I suppose STJs, especially ISTJs, are more Lawful. I guess you can make it NTJ, then.
    True; I must have skipped over that.
    You're right. They correlate with both Good AND Neutral.\
    I probably should have just left it at FJ, but I guess I was focusing on distinguishing between NTJ and NFJ.
    Where?
    you included SJs in Lawful and TJs in Neutral. that said, I suppose their could be overlap
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    Quote Originally Posted by Elfboy View Post
    you included SJs in Lawful and TJs in Neutral. that said, I suppose their could be overlap
    Yeah, that's what I was going with when I put TJs in Neutral. That SJ usually correlates with Lawful, but TJ is sometimes neutral. It applies more to NTJs, though.
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    Fi > Ne > Ti > Fe > Se > Si > Te > Ni

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hazashin View Post
    Yeah, that's what I was going with when I put TJs in Neutral. That SJ usually correlates with Lawful, but TJ is sometimes neutral. It applies more to NTJs, though.
    also, depends on the type of phobic 6. some phobic 6s are dutiful and compliant while others are phobic for the sake of survival and don't really have strong allegiance to an organization. the former would be lawful, the latter neutral
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    Quote Originally Posted by Elfboy View Post
    @Savage Idealist
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    @Viridian

    Lawful Evil:
    - Patrick Bateman (American Psycho)
    - Light Yagami (Death Note)
    - Magneto (X Men)
    - Kiyomi Takada (Death Note)
    - Spiral King (Gurren Lagann)
    - Aoshi Shinomori (Rurouni Kenshin)

    Lawful Neutral:
    - Spiral King (Gurren Lagann)

    Lawful Good:
    - Padme (Star Wars)
    - Rassiu (Gurren Lagann)
    - Obi-Wan Kenobi (Star Wars)
    - Soichiro Yagami (Death Note)
    - most Jedi (Star Wars)
    - Professor X (X Men)

    Neutral Evil:
    - Darth Vader (Star Wars)
    - Count Dooku (Star Wars)
    - Shishio (Rurouni Kenshin)
    - Boba Fett (Star Wars)

    True Neutral:
    - L (Death Note)
    - Anakin Skywalker before Darth Vader (Star Wars)
    - Mark Zuckerburg (the Social Network)

    Neutral Good:
    - Saito Hajime (Rurouni Kenshin)
    - Kenshin (Rurouni Kenshin)
    - Link (Legend of Zelda)
    - Spider Man (Spider Man)
    - Luke Skywalker

    Chaotic Evil:
    - Kratos (God of War)
    -
    - The Joker (Batman)

    Chaotic Neutral:
    - Spike Spiegel (Cowboy Bebop)
    - Misa Amane (Death Note)
    - Sano (Rurouni Kenshin)
    - Sean Parker (The Social Network)
    - Han Solo (Star Wars)
    - Gambit (X Men)
    - Wolverine (X Men)
    - Beatrix Kiddo (Kill Bill)

    Chaotic Good:
    - Lelouch vi Britannia (Code Geass)
    - Kallen Statfeld (Code Geass)
    - Kamina (Gurren Lagann)
    - Keaton (Gurren Lagann)
    - V (V for Vendetta)
    - Simon (Gurren Lagann)
    Darth Vader is the epithome of Lawful Evil, an by the way, the fact that Anakin is a True Neutral is anothe clue that his characterisation was bad. He should rather have been a lawful good turning lawful evil.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Speed Gavroche View Post
    Darth Vader is the epithome of Lawful Evil, an by the way, the fact that Anakin is a True Neutral is anothe clue that his characterisation was bad. He should rather have been a lawful good turning lawful evil.
    No, Anakin was supposed to be Chaotic Good.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Elfboy View Post
    also, depends on the type of phobic 6. some phobic 6s are dutiful and compliant while others are phobic for the sake of survival and don't really have strong allegiance to an organization. the former would be lawful, the latter neutral
    True. However, there is still somewhat of a correlation. I may be Neutral Good, but I certainly have Lawful tendencies.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hazashin View Post
    No, Anakin was supposed to be Chaotic Good.
    Anakin was supposed to be nothing but chaotic. But a noble family man who was stiongly commited to the republic and the emperor, at a point which gone to far. Lawful Good.
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