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    Quote Originally Posted by Speed Gavroche View Post
    Ni is about a planned single vision of the future.
    Palpatine.

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    Luke is not a planner of the future. He is just opened about possibilities. While SPs are opened about opportunities, but when Ben offers it, he does not take it and jump into action, as a true SP would do, but is bond by his tertiary Si and "what if" thinking.
    I don't know which scene you're referring to. But Luke is only Se secondarily, so he will be rather torn between Fi loyalty and the Se drive to seek excitement. I married an ISFP and so I know the type very well.
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    I can understand an ISFP being a little absent minded at times but "never" focused on the present moment, never? Sounds a bit antithetical for an SP, unless Yoda was completely wrong about him.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Quinlan View Post
    I can understand an ISFP being a little absent minded at times but "never" focused on the present moment, never? Sounds a bit antithetical for an SP, unless Yoda was completely wrong about him.
    It sounds like Yoda is just projecting his N traits. Nothing in Luke's character shows him to be anything but present-minded. But to say that ISFPs can't dream about the future is to subtract a lot of their common humanity. It may be necessary to bring in some Ni tertiary to fill in the blanks.
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    Re: Midichlorians, they weren't the force, just the link to the force, the force is like the internet and Midichlorians are more like a modem. So Yoda was accurate in describing the force as a mystical energy field an explanation of Midichlorians is only neccessary if you're explaining how force potential is measured in individuals.
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    Quote Originally Posted by wolfy View Post
    I'm not sure if this has been brought up but Yoda has a tendency to use improper grammar structure, which would tend to rule out T.
    That's how people of his specie talk, that has nothing to do with his MBTI type.

    "Yoda is not good at languages, therefore it's rule out NF".

    I can do stupid connection between one aspect of a character and his mbti type too.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Quinlan View Post
    I can understand an ISFP being a little absent minded at times but "never" focused on the present moment, never? Sounds a bit antithetical for an SP, unless Yoda was completely wrong about him.
    This.

    For the midi-chlorian thing, many fans think it was an error from Lucas to invent that, and I lean to agree with that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mal+ View Post
    Palpatine.
    Yes, Palpatine is an Ni-dom. But we're not talking about him.


    I don't know which scene you're referring to.
    When Ben ask Luke to go with him on Alderaan after they saw the Leia's message. A true SP would suddendly take that opportunity to jump into action. But he does not, therefore he's not SP. Chewbacca , Boba Fett and Han are true SPs, see the difference. True ISFPs in Star Wars are Wicket the Ewok and maybe Beru.

    But Luke is only Se secondarily, so he will be rather torn between Fi loyalty and the Se drive to seek excitement.
    Fi is not about dependability to routine. Fi/Se combination has not the dependability to routine of the Fi/Si combination.


    I married an ISFP and so I know the type very well.
    Beru is a true ISFP. She's very focused on concrete task, but is laid-back and carefree, the exact opposite of Luke, who is INFP.
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    yoda is type PPPT. he's a god damn puppet.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Speed Gavroche View Post
    That's how people of his specie talk, that has nothing to do with his MBTI type.

    "Yoda is not good at languages, therefore it's rule out NF".

    I can do stupid connection between one aspect of a character and his mbti type too.
    Haha, you crack me up. I guess you realize I was taking the piss. I'd like to hear one of your stupid connections, please.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Quinlan View Post
    Re: Midichlorians, they weren't the force, just the link to the force, the force is like the internet and Midichlorians are more like a modem. So Yoda was accurate in describing the force as a mystical energy field an explanation of Midichlorians is only neccessary if you're explaining how force potential is measured in individuals.
    Yes, I'm just saying that Yoda focused on the mystical aspect when instructing Luke, not on the physical catalyst living in his bloodstream.
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