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    Quote Originally Posted by Mal+ View Post
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    Yoda is INTP, he is indeed looking at interconnections, so an Ne user, not an Ni user. But he doesn't judge thing in a value oriented subjective way. For Yoda must feelthings as they are withoud judging it, not make value judgment about this. So he is a T, not a F.

    Luke is INFP, not ISFP, he focused on the future, not the present moment.
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    I am highlighting all the famous figures with parallels to Yoda:

    Abraham Lincoln ENTP/INTP 150
    Adam Smith INTP
    Adolf Hitler INFJ/INTJ 141
    Albert Einstein INTP 205
    Alexander Graham Bell
    Alexander the Great ENTJ 180
    Aristotle INTP 190
    Augustus Caesar INTJ
    Benjamin Franklin ENTP 185
    Bill Gates INTJ/INTP 173
    Buddha INFJ/INFP
    Charlemagne
    Charles Darwin INTJ 173
    Constantine
    Francis Bacon INTJ 180
    Galileo Galilei INTP 180
    Gandhi INFJ/INFP 160
    George Washington ISTJ 140
    Isaac Newton INTJ 195
    Jesus INFJ
    John F. Kennedy INTJ 119
    John Locke INTP 165
    Joseph Stalin ESTJ/ISTJ
    Julius Caesar ENTJ 175
    Karl Marx INTP
    Leonardo da Vinci INTP 220
    Ludwig van Beethoven INTJ/INFJ 165
    Martin Luther INTJ/INTP 170
    Martin Luther King Jr. ENFJ
    Max Planck
    Michelangelo INFP 175
    Muhammad ENTJ
    Napoleon Bonaparte ENTJ 145
    Nicolaus Copernicus
    Niels Bohr
    Nikola Tesla ENTP/INTP 200
    Pablo Picasso ISFP 160
    Plato INTP 180
    Rene Descartes INTP 175
    Sigmund Freud INFJ/INTJ 156
    Thomas Edison ENTP 180
    Thomas Jefferson INTJ 195
    Walt Disney ENTP 123
    Warren Buffett INTP
    William Shakespeare INFP 210
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    Quote Originally Posted by Speed Gavroche View Post
    Her post can be summarized as "thinkers can be emotionals too".Which actually make my point since the few emotional side of Yoda are coherent with his INTPness.
    Only because that's how YOU want to summarize it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mal+ View Post
    Only because that's how YOU want to summarize it.
    Summarize it in another way if you can.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Speed Gavroche View Post
    Yoda is INTP, he is indeed looking at interconnections, so an Ne user, not an Ni user. But he doesn't judge thing in a value oriented subjective way. For Yoda must feelthings as they are withoud judging it, not make value judgment about this. So he is a T, not a F.

    Luke is INFP, not ISFP, he focused on the future, not the present moment.
    Luke is another topic. He is focused on the present. At the beginning of Star Wars he whined that he wanted to go play instead of doing his chores (Se). His attacks on everything were direct: he directed the attack on the Imperial walkers - straight into their guns; the attack on Jabba's fortress was straightforward - just waltz right on into the hornet's nest. In the end, the Emperor goaded Luke into using his light-saber by pointing to his friends being decimated - something he could see right out the window.
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    Quote Originally Posted by polikujm View Post
    It really is pretty obvious, like I said earlier: Ti's argue with logic, Ni's argue with ideas. Yoda's heart is filled to the brim with ethical knowledge and insightful NF poetry and philosophy. He barely riddles in logic, only once or twice to elegantly ornament one of his revelations. Nor does he deal in more 'dry-theory' like NTs.
    Agreed. You have a far better idea of all this than SG.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mal+ View Post
    Luke is another topic. He is focused on the present.
    No, Yoda critics him because he is too much focused to the future and not enough on the present moment. Watch the movie.

    At the beginning of Star Wars he whined that he wanted to go play instead of doing his chores (Se).
    He is an NP, so he daydreams about being somewhere else and dislike limiting concrete tasks. Normal. Beru Lars and Chewbacca are real SFPs, see the difference.

    His attacks on everything were direct: he directed the attack on the Imperial walkers
    He is so aware of his surroundig that the tusken warrior attacked him while he was using his binoculars... Actually the Lukes's lack of awareness of his direct sensory environment is obvious.

    the attack on Jabba's fortress was straightforward
    Hem, no. He spent a long time doing vain diplomacy before he truly take action. Typically INFP.

    the Emperor goaded Luke into using his light-saber by pointing to his friends being decimated - something he could see out the window.
    You're basically saying that Luke have a pair of eyes, so he is a sensor. Brillant.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mal+ View Post
    Agreed. You have a far better idea of all this than SG.
    I have ever demonstrated that his idea was wrong.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Speed Gavroche View Post
    No, Yoda critics him because he is too much focused to the future and not enough on the present moment. Watch the movie.
    I don't have to go digging up information trying to verify or knock down your arbitrary statements. There are Yoda quotes all over the internet. Find one.

    Quote Originally Posted by Speed Gavroche View Post
    He is an NP, so he daydreams about being somewhere else and dislike limiting concrete tasks. Normal. Beru Lars and Chewbacca are real SFPs, see the difference.
    Daydreaming about being somewhere else is what Se-dom does when it is stuck on a desert planet doing chores for aunt and uncle.

    Quote Originally Posted by Speed Gavroche View Post
    He is so aware of his surroundig that the tusken warrior attacked him while he was using his binoculars... Actually the Lukes's lack of awareness of his direct sensory environment is obvious.
    That means nothing.

    Quote Originally Posted by Speed Gavroche View Post
    Hem, no. He spent a long time doing vain diplomacy before he truly take action. Typically INFP.
    What are you talking about now?

    Quote Originally Posted by Speed Gavroche View Post
    You're basically saying that Luke have a pair of eyes, so he is a sensor. Brillant.
    I've noticed something over the threads. Whenever you start a sentence with the word "basically," you're wrong.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mal+ View Post
    I don't have to go digging up information trying to verify or knock down your arbitrary statements. There are Yoda quotes all over the internet. Find one.

    No, you prefer to stick on one line which doesn't prove anything. Anyway, the entire movie is online, watch it.


    Daydreaming about being somewhere else is what Se-dom does when it is stuck on a desert planet doing chores for aunt and uncle.
    No, they are focused on what they do, not on the future.

    That means nothing.
    Of course. It proves your wrong, so it means nothing. It's obvious.


    What are you talking about now?
    Spending a long time doing diplomacy and negotiating with Jabba. Luke is more focused on diplomacy than on tactic. He is an NF, not an SP.


    I've noticed something over the threads. Whenever you start a sentence with the word "basically," you're wrong.
    Prove it.
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