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    Quote Originally Posted by Huxley3112 View Post
    I always thought that Kiedis was a known INFP, like Neil Young. Look at the lyrics.
    You think so? I've always perceived him more as a sensor. the first quote says “I’ve wanted to feel pleasure to the point of insanity. They call it getting high, because it’s wanting to know that higher level, that godlike level..." sounds more like S to me.

    Why do you think he's N? could you give an example?

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    Quote Originally Posted by comeasyouare View Post

    Why do you think he's N? could you give an example?
    Well, if you look at Kiedis lyrics, you will almost always find him referring to a deeper meaning or bigger picture through analogies and metaphors. A tortured soul gone rock star "i've got a bad disease, up from my brain is where I bleed - insanity it seems, has got me by my soul to squeeze"

    Fi
    "Scar tissue that I wish you saw
    Sarcastic mister know it all
    Close your eyes and I'll kiss you 'cause
    With the birds I'll share
    With the birds I'll share
    This lonely view
    With the birds I'll share
    This lonely view"

    "My friends are so depressed
    I feel the question
    Of your loneliness"

    Ne

    "White heat is screaming in the jungle
    Complete the motion if you stumble
    Go ask the dust for any answers
    Come back strong with 50 belly dancers"

    "Sweetheart is bleeding in the snowcone
    So smart she's leading me to ozone
    Music the great communicator
    Use two sticks to make it in the nature
    I'll get you into penetration
    The gender of a generation
    The birth of every other nation
    Worth your weight the gold of meditation
    This chapter's going to be a close one
    Smoke rings I know your going to blow one
    All on a spaceship persevering
    Use my hands for everything but steering"

    F for sure. Look at the song titles
    "Torture me"
    "Desecration smile"
    "Scar Tissue"
    "Soul to squeeze"
    "I could die for you"
    "Savior"
    "Taste the Pain"
    "TearJerker"
    "Show me your soul"
    "I've been down"

    He's been used as an INFP example on other websites. Ofcourse, arguments can always be made for other types but I personally see too much analogy and feeling in his work.
    Man suffers only because he takes seriously what the gods made for fun - Watts

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    hes 100% F ISFP.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Huxley3112 View Post
    Well, if you look at Kiedis lyrics, you will almost always find him referring to a deeper meaning or bigger picture through analogies and metaphors. A tortured soul gone rock star "i've got a bad disease, up from my brain is where I bleed - insanity it seems, has got me by my soul to squeeze"

    Fi
    "Scar tissue that I wish you saw
    Sarcastic mister know it all
    Close your eyes and I'll kiss you 'cause
    With the birds I'll share
    With the birds I'll share
    This lonely view
    With the birds I'll share
    This lonely view"

    "My friends are so depressed
    I feel the question
    Of your loneliness"

    Ne

    "White heat is screaming in the jungle
    Complete the motion if you stumble
    Go ask the dust for any answers
    Come back strong with 50 belly dancers"

    "Sweetheart is bleeding in the snowcone
    So smart she's leading me to ozone
    Music the great communicator
    Use two sticks to make it in the nature
    I'll get you into penetration
    The gender of a generation
    The birth of every other nation
    Worth your weight the gold of meditation
    This chapter's going to be a close one
    Smoke rings I know your going to blow one
    All on a spaceship persevering
    Use my hands for everything but steering"

    F for sure. Look at the song titles
    "Torture me"
    "Desecration smile"
    "Scar Tissue"
    "Soul to squeeze"
    "I could die for you"
    "Savior"
    "Taste the Pain"
    "TearJerker"
    "Show me your soul"
    "I've been down"

    He's been used as an INFP example on other websites. Ofcourse, arguments can always be made for other types but I personally see too much analogy and feeling in his work.
    Now i'm just sure he's an introvert ... ok you convinced me.
    I've seen some websites that typed him as an INFJ, but never an INFP though

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    Quote Originally Posted by Huxley3112 View Post
    Well, if you look at Kiedis lyrics, you will almost always find him referring to a deeper meaning or bigger picture through analogies and metaphors. A tortured soul gone rock star "i've got a bad disease, up from my brain is where I bleed - insanity it seems, has got me by my soul to squeeze"

    Fi
    "Scar tissue that I wish you saw
    Sarcastic mister know it all
    Close your eyes and I'll kiss you 'cause
    With the birds I'll share
    With the birds I'll share
    This lonely view
    With the birds I'll share
    This lonely view"

    "My friends are so depressed
    I feel the question
    Of your loneliness"

    Ne

    "White heat is screaming in the jungle
    Complete the motion if you stumble
    Go ask the dust for any answers
    Come back strong with 50 belly dancers"

    "Sweetheart is bleeding in the snowcone
    So smart she's leading me to ozone
    Music the great communicator
    Use two sticks to make it in the nature
    I'll get you into penetration
    The gender of a generation
    The birth of every other nation
    Worth your weight the gold of meditation
    This chapter's going to be a close one
    Smoke rings I know your going to blow one
    All on a spaceship persevering
    Use my hands for everything but steering"

    F for sure. Look at the song titles
    "Torture me"
    "Desecration smile"
    "Scar Tissue"
    "Soul to squeeze"
    "I could die for you"
    "Savior"
    "Taste the Pain"
    "TearJerker"
    "Show me your soul"
    "I've been down"

    He's been used as an INFP example on other websites. Ofcourse, arguments can always be made for other types but I personally see too much analogy and feeling in his work.
    I've looked at their lyrics before, and, as such, strongly doubted your claim for them showing him to be an intuitive.

    And, based on the ones you provided, I am only more strongly now in that camp.

    Nothing about those words makes me think he's an intuitive.

    They are all sound and fury, signifying nothing.

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    I could see EFP, but can anyone explain why they see introvert? I'm just curious. To me, it sounds like he put experiences and pleasure on a pedestal. You can't be introverted when your top priority is outside. He only looks back now at the quest as faulty. He talks about "earning" and appreciating something more qualitative. His earlier attitude had an extro point of view.. thinking that value came from being affected.. he searched for amazing experiences.. bought it, looked for it on the street corners, wanted to touch the heavens. These are all indicators outside of himself. ISPs are more sporadic, looking for things worth their time first.

    John Frusciante is obviously introverted. Extremely probably. His songs are hauntingly remote at times. Flea and Keidis are basically the same temperment. Not just the stage personas.. they're just more out there in general. And unlike John, they pushed so hard to keep that band alive partly for their fans. I've heard both say that when things got tiring, boring, mundane, they still forced themselves in the mindset for their fans. Frusciante was always like.. screw it.. I'll do what I want. Left the band multiple times.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KDude View Post
    I could see EFP, but can anyone explain why they see introvert? I'm just curious. To me, it sounds like he put experiences and pleasure on a pedestal. You can't be introverted when your top priority is outside. He only looks back now at the quest as faulty. He talks about "earning" and appreciating something more qualitative. His earlier attitude had an extro point of view.. thinking that value came from being affected.. he searched for amazing experiences.. bought it, looked for it on the street corners, wanted to touch the heavens. These are all indicators outside of himself. ISPs are more sporadic, looking for things worth their time first.

    John Frusciante is obviously introverted. Extremely probably. His songs are hauntingly remote at times. Flea and Keidis are basically the same temperment. Not just the stage personas.. they're just more out there in general. And unlike John, they pushed so hard to keep that band alive partly for their fans. I've heard both say that when things got tiring, boring, mundane, they still forced themselves in the mindset for their fans. Frusciante was always like.. screw it.. I'll do what I want. Left the band multiple times.
    Ok, i got some quotes from his book, sorry is it's a little long

    Introverted:
    "I realized that our music was now in the public domain and no longer some underground phenomenon. Which made me a bit more shy and reclusive. Ironically, Flea and I had spent most of our lives craving attention and trying to create spectacle...."

    "A lot of times people will judge you on their perceived idea of how you're acting. If you're in a room and you're feeling shy and you don't want a certain amount of attention, you're not going out of your way to make friend with everybody. Then someone's going to walk away going, 'That arrogant motherfucker, he didn't even try to talk to me'. You're trying to lay low and not make a big deal about yourself, but they're seeing you as this guy who's all that and a bag of fucking chips"

    Judging:
    "I began realizing that I'd been carrying on as a control freak, wanting to have everything go according to my plans, which turned out to be the biggest pain in the ass ever ... and that was probably the biggest mistake I made during that time, thinking that I knew better or had a better plan..."

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    i think intj 5w4 sx/sp. i think flea is an istp 5w6 sx/sp. john is probably an isfp 4w3 so/sx.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mAxkb...eature=related

    sx/sp seems clear. he seems to have more e5 energy than e8. you get that kind of Se look at times but the eye/attention movements show a kind of a non-spatial, mind's eye presence. he's often very vaguely referential rather than tangible and descriptive. he also doesn't seem like an estp (which would likely mean 7w8) because his sense of movement doesn't have that kind of feel. he has a kind of reckless abandon (sx/sp!) but it's not really a being-in-one's body comfort/awareness. his voice is more flat, e5like. he rapped because, in part, he couldn't really sing. e5 singers don't really have any range. we lose our range of motion and it's pretty much gone from then on, in favor of a more deadpan intonation. he also has this kind of self-cultivated "i think i'm a shaman" aura.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZACdJ...eature=related

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    i thought he was a pretty clear infj :/
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