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    Quote Originally Posted by Huxley3112 View Post
    I've seen that list before, I used to like to read Lord Acton but I got pissed off at how he seemed to think that absolutism was a trait of government alone, not that that's not common among a lot of libertarians though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lark View Post
    I've seen that list before, I used to like to read Lord Acton but I got pissed off at how he seemed to think that absolutism was a trait of government alone, not that that's not common among a lot of libertarians though.

    Lol.

    You can't defend freedom and absolutism at the same time.

    Good list anyway. I had no specific clues that Sandra Bernhard was libertarian. But apparently she supported Ron Paul, and David Letterman did too. http://www.apfn.net/Messageboard/10-...on.cgi.92.html
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    Quote Originally Posted by Speed Gavroche View Post
    Lol.

    You can't defend freedom and absolutism at the same time.
    Apparently you can and most libertarians do.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lark View Post
    Apparently you can and most libertarians do.
    Of course, you have nothing to sustain your assertions. You could never find a libertarian who defends absolutism. A libertarian always respect the freedom of his fellows human being.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Speed Gavroche View Post
    Of course, you have nothing to sustain your assertions. You could never find a libertarian who defends absolutism. A libertarian always respect the freedom of his fellows human being.
    So long as its not government its all good to a libertarian.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lark View Post
    So long as its not government its all good to a libertarian.
    If there's not government, there can't be absolutism.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Speed Gavroche View Post
    If there's not government, there can be absolutism.
    Yeah. That's my point.

    I suspect that you meant to write "If there's not government, there cant be absolutism", which illustrates both the earlier point made about libertarians and my own point that libertarians dont care about absolutism provided its not the work of government, in fact they care so little that they deny it exists apart from government.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lark View Post
    Yeah. That's my point.

    I suspect that you meant to write "If there's not government, there cant be absolutism", which illustrates both the earlier point made about libertarians and my own point that libertarians dont care about absolutism provided its not the work of government, in fact they care so little that they deny it exists apart from government.
    Yah yah.

    And then come the classic moment when the socialist want to impose an authority to "protect" us from another authority, and accuse the libertarian of feodalism at the same time. You don't realize that the true feodalist is you. Hilarious.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Speed Gavroche View Post
    Yah yah.

    And then come the classic moment when the socialist want to impose an authority to "protect" us from another authority, and accuse the libertarian of feodalism at the same time. You don't realize that the true feodalist is you. Hilarious.
    Really? I dont see you laughing, I see the same script being played out as always when your ideology is challenged, and the inability to spell which indicates that you're either too furious to type or english isnt your first language.

    What "classic moment when the socialist want (sic) to impose an authority to "protect" us from another authority"? That's a very confused statement there, what socialists want to impose an authority? Can you cite any or is that just something you've heard repeated in libertarian circles and decided to repeat yourself?

    The socialists I know, like GDH Cole, Eric Fromm or George Orwell, advocated self-government but were not confused anti-authoritarians who rejected wholesale the rule of law or properly constituted authorities, what socialists are you talking about?

    What is "feodalism"? Did you mean feudalism? Just describe for me a moment what feudalism is would you, I've a very strong suspiscion that you're using that word without any knowledge at all of the historical epoch refered to as feudalist, or how it is supposed to resemble socialism for that matter, as a simple synomyn for "a very bad thing".

    There's a very good chance that depending on how you answer I'm just going to begin ignoring you because I'm becoming less and less convinced that you know what you're talking about when you enter political threads and become argumentative to cover up for it.

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