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    Quote Originally Posted by Jeffster View Post
    I would be the coolest president EVER.
    Certainly bound to be better than anything currently being offered.

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    Quote Originally Posted by heart View Post
    Aren't ENF's often sort of more introspective and all that moreso than other E's?
    At first I would think that ENT's are more introspective, but I might agree with you.

    But I'd like to hear some of the reasons why people think he's a E.

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    I would think that ENFPs are more introspective than ENTPs, because for the ENFP to make decisions, they must look within to what they value.

    Not sure about Js.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ajblaise View Post
    At first I would think that ENT's are more introspective, but I might agree with you.

    But I'd like to hear some of the reasons why people think he's a E.
    I can't buy INFJ because male INFJ always seem to have this other-worldly look in their eyes and "I come with a sword and not a peace" (totally hot btw), they are like never totally engaged in this world. Obama doesn't give me that vibe.

    He also comes accross as too J to be INFP. INFP who starts appearing J will have a hard Te dictatorial edge and he doesn't ...he has this Fe/Ti feel to him. He seems most like EFJ.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ajblaise View Post
    He's been described as a slightly nerdy, awkward, and aloof person. I think his orator skills might make people assume he's an E, but in more personal settings, he's not quite as comfortable.
    You've just described me. I love people and I love talking to people but I can come off quite awkward and aloof because of my iN.


    Quote Originally Posted by heart View Post
    Aren't ENF's often sort of more introspective and all that moreso than other E's?
    Yes. People confuse me ALL THE TIME for an introvert just because Im not as extraverted as.. lets say... an ENFP, or ESFJ. Its so annoying.

    Obama is Enfj to the max.

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    Quote Originally Posted by heart View Post
    I can't buy INFJ because male INFJ always seem to have this other-worldly look in their eyes and "I come with a sword and not a peace" (totally hot btw), they are like never totally engaged in this world. Obama doesn't give me that vibe.

    He also comes accross as too J to be INFP. INFP who starts appearing J will have a hard Te dictatorial edge and he doesn't ...he has this Fe/Ti feel to him. He seems most like EFJ.
    I think P politicians will often come across as J, because to be a politician you have to project sureness, decisiveness, and resolve. So the way he acts during a speech could just part of the act.

    Have you looked at either of his books? Assuming he didn't use ghostwriters, which I doubt, I could definitely believe he's an introvert. INFJ's tend also to be very idealist, which there's no doubt Obama is.

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    ENFJ are also idealists, but more Fe geared in their visions. We have some fine examples here on the board, Pink, Looking4bestinU and Protean. They are idealists.

    Clinton was P and didn't come accross as J.

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    I'd guess McCain as ENTJ and Obama as ENTP.

    ENTJ is the classic Presidential type, even George W Bush is an ENTJ (ENTJ doesn't mean you have to be clever!).
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    Quote Originally Posted by heart View Post
    Clinton was P and didn't come accross as J.
    Yeah that's true. But it's not like he ever showed uncertainty much and a reluctance to come to conclusions. Maybe when you have a 160 IQ and are great with people you don't need to act like a J to get people to follow you.

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    Obama is an ENFJ and McCain is a ISTJ.
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