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    Default Temperament and Income

    Disclaimer: this is not a thread for type hating. please do remember that correlation does not equal causation. that being said, if your political correctness prevents you seeing the possibility of a correlation at all, please do not comment. for those of you willing to discuss this topic without bias, welcome

    my guess is that higher income is loosely correlated with:
    MBTI: TJs
    Enneagram: 8s and 3s
    Instinctual Variants: self preservation (actually, I think this is probably the most significant correlation)
    4 Humours: choleric (if this is even a viable personality model, I really don't think it is)

    what are your thoughts on temperament/income correlations?

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    Depends what kind of job you're talking about, there are musicians and actors out there who roll in a bit, many of them would be SPs.

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    I'm gonna have to take issue with the sp subtype thing. I'd say sp-doms seek a stable income, whereas so- or sx- doms might be willing to take risks more often and achieve bigger - if slightly more sporadic and fluctuating - monetary gain. Whaddya think?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Elfboy View Post
    Disclaimer: this is not a thread for type hating. please do remember that correlation does not equal causation. that being said, if your political correctness prevents you seeing the possibility of a correlation at all, please do not comment. for those of you willing to discuss this topic without bias, welcome

    my guess is that higher income is loosely correlated with:
    MBTI: TJs
    Enneagram: 8s and 3s
    Instinctual Variants: self preservation (actually, I think this is probably the most significant correlation)
    4 Humours: choleric (if this is even a viable personality model, I really don't think it is)

    what are your thoughts on temperament/income correlations?
    There's actual stats out there on type and income, I think there's another thread about it. ENTJ's make the most as a group I think. (Makes sense.)
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    Temperament usually refers to IP IJ EP EJ, just ftr. I'd guess EJs might be those with the average highest income, but IP and EP are likely overrepresented in higher quantiles, since they're usually more risk-taking.

    There's actual stats out there on type and income, I think there's another thread about it. ENTJ's make the most as a group I think. (Makes sense.)
    If I remember right, the ranking was based on household income. Perhaps ENTJs are good at marrying into money?
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    Enneagram and MBTI distribution statistics

    This was an interesting thread, though the stats were pulled from a site that no longer exists, so.....

    Not sure about the numbers anymore, but I think the general layout of type vs. income is about right.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Viridian View Post
    I'm gonna have to take issue with the sp subtype thing. I'd say sp-doms seek a stable income, whereas so- or sx- doms might be willing to take risks more often and achieve bigger - if slightly more sporadic and fluctuating - monetary gain. Whaddya think?
    actually, higher income is associated with lower risk taking, not higher. put more accurately, higher income is associated with risk reducing behavior as opposed to risky behavior or avoidance.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Elfboy View Post
    actually, higher income is associated with lower risk taking, not higher. put more accurately, higher income is associated with risk reducing behavior as opposed to risky behavior or avoidance.
    That could work, I guess... Though I'd say the most "successful" people - in a general sense of the word - are the ones who, to quote Daniel Pink, dare to "make excellent mistakes" - sx-doms, maybe?

    Eh, maybe I'm just talking out of my keister.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Elfboy View Post
    Disclaimer: this is not a thread for type hating. please do remember that correlation does not equal causation. that being said, if your political correctness prevents you seeing the possibility of a correlation at all, please do not comment. for those of you willing to discuss this topic without bias, welcome

    my guess is that higher income is loosely correlated with:
    MBTI: TJs
    Enneagram: 8s and 3s
    Instinctual Variants: self preservation (actually, I think this is probably the most significant correlation)
    4 Humours: choleric (if this is even a viable personality model, I really don't think it is)

    what are your thoughts on temperament/income correlations?
    I agree with all of this except the variant part.

    Quote Originally Posted by Kasper View Post
    Depends what kind of job you're talking about, there are musicians and actors out there who roll in a bit, many of them would be SPs.
    Yes. Sports stars too.

    Quote Originally Posted by Viridian View Post
    I'm gonna have to take issue with the sp subtype thing. I'd say sp-doms seek a stable income, whereas so- or sx- doms might be willing to take risks more often and achieve bigger - if slightly more sporadic and fluctuating - monetary gain. Whaddya think?
    I generally agree with this.

    Here's how I think the variants play out:

    SP: Seeks stable income. Wants to make enough to live comfortably.

    SO: Social position matters to some degree. For them, higher income may mean higher social position.

    SX: Do the work you love, money be damned. I think the 'starving artist' type is most likely SX suptype. Some are at the other extreme, taking great financial risks, some making alot of money to afford an extravagant lifestyle.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Viridian View Post
    That could work, I guess... Though I'd say the most "successful" people - in a general sense of the word - are the ones who, to quote Daniel Pink, dare to "make excellent mistakes" - sx-doms, maybe?

    Eh, maybe I'm just talking out of my keister.
    exactly, making mistakes of the right kind, as opposed to mistakes of impulsive and high risk

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