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    Conversely, I'm a female thinker and it took me a long time to realize that I wasn't an "F."

    Every since then, everything has made so much more sense. Now I can't even imagine how I ever thought otherwise.

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    There's a saying, I don't know where it came from but I've heard it said:

    "Most men are romantics pretending to be pragmatists. Most women are pragmatists pretending to be romantics."

    Interesting...

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    Quote Originally Posted by entropie View Post
    There are many people who can outsmart me in a second by knowing every author to every book once written and think they are intelligent. They are, their intelligence can be compared to that of a harddrive; but to learn the language of F-types and to understand their intelligence that's a challenge, because their intelligence nearly always involves making the toughest and personally most unpleasant decisions in life
    Thank-you. It's a challenge to be intelligently empathetic and in tune with other's feelings.
    With dreamers, pure and simple, the imagination remains a vaguely sketched inner affair. It is not embodied in any aesthetic or practical invention. Reverie is the equivalent of weak desires. Dreamers are the aboulics of the creative imagination.

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    Quote Originally Posted by allegorystory View Post
    Conversely, I'm a female thinker and it took me a long time to realize that I wasn't an "F."

    Every since then, everything has made so much more sense. Now I can't even imagine how I ever thought otherwise.
    I don't understand the denial thing when it comes to typing. The more honest a person is with themselves, the easier it is to live with yourself and the more helpful that MBTI can be.

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    Quote Originally Posted by oberon View Post
    There's a saying, I don't know where it came from but I've heard it said:

    "Most men are romantics pretending to be pragmatists. Most women are pragmatists pretending to be romantics."

    Interesting...
    I agree with this for the most part. I think women have to be a lot more pragmatic about love though because we're making a decision for ourselves and another being (future kiddies).
    With dreamers, pure and simple, the imagination remains a vaguely sketched inner affair. It is not embodied in any aesthetic or practical invention. Reverie is the equivalent of weak desires. Dreamers are the aboulics of the creative imagination.

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    I'm neither romantic or pragmatic, I think. I try not to involve myself much in that aspect.

    ..I guess it could be for both pragmatic and "sensitive" reasons. Basically, I'm like many people who are sick of dating.

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    When I have a feeling about someone, I do filter it through my values, but that's only one step. the goal of feeling as a cognitive process is understanding the problem, not just seeing if it's 'right' or 'proper' in some sense based on internal parameters. The answer that is most beneficial will come from using intuition and feeling, but also logic. the goal is to address the problem at several levels.
    I think people still have trouble differentiating between 'feeling' as emotion ( or being emotional) and 'feeling' as a process of filtering intuitive information to solve problems. It can be very emotional, but only because it is partially unconscious.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KDude View Post
    I'm neither romantic or pragmatic, I think. I try not to involve myself much in that aspect.

    ..I guess it could be for both pragmatic and "sensitive" reasons. Basically, I'm like many people who are sick of dating.
    It's annoying. I think I'd rather watch Dexter at this point.
    With dreamers, pure and simple, the imagination remains a vaguely sketched inner affair. It is not embodied in any aesthetic or practical invention. Reverie is the equivalent of weak desires. Dreamers are the aboulics of the creative imagination.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Metaphor View Post
    I don't understand the denial thing when it comes to typing. The more honest a person is with themselves, the easier it is to live with yourself and the more helpful that MBTI can be.
    It wasn't about denial, I just didn't know enough about it. The more I delved into MBTI and Jungian functions, the better I understood and the more clear everything became.

    It also doesn't help that ENFP and ENTP can be similar in a lot of respects (in general type descriptions, not in function order). What I thought was Fi with Te, I finally realized was Ti with Fe. When I made that conclusion, everything fell into place.

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    Quote Originally Posted by allegorystory View Post
    It wasn't about denial, I just didn't know enough about it. The more I delved into MBTI and Jungian functions, the better I understood and the more clear everything became.

    It also doesn't help that ENFP and ENTP can be similar in a lot of respects (in general type descriptions, not in function order). What I thought was Fi with Te, I finally realized was Ti with Fe. When I made that conclusion, everything fell into place.
    Sorry, I wasn't saying you were in denial. Once it fell into place, you embraced it instead of denying it.

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