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    But Smithers never acts or display his feelings, he's boring, bland and a doormat.

    And the reason Sideshow Bob frames Krusty for robbery is because Krusty abused him on the show, and probably partly because he loathed that form of entertainment. When the show became his he abandoned the comedy and read Shakespeare or something like that for the kids.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Speed Gavroche View Post
    Which means that he has a strong sense of right and wrong: Krusty did a wrong thing stealing his show, so he wants to punish him. But actually, he don't behave like sociopath who is always excessive and don't care about rules: he's actually rather calm, polite and composed and consider himself as a republican conservative who respects the etiquette and the rules of society: he's visibly angry but say he's not angry (as opposed to 8 who is proud of his anger and shows it delibaretly) and is just doing things right. So he is a 1.
    I think I may have worded that poorly; I meant to say that Sideshow Bob framed Krusty as a means of taking the show for himself, not that it was ever his show to begin with. That level of narcissistic thievery doesn't strike me as a one motivation (rather a one would only do what Sideshow Bob did if he felt some sort of just reason for doing so). Also, his composed demenaor doesn't mean he has to be 1 perse, rather it indicates a 9 wing. Although when Ithink about it, his calmness is onlt active sometimes, other times he's clearly showing how angry he is by mean of maniacal laughter or chasing after part with a knife. Also, what kind of conservative who respects the rules of society constantly attempts to murder a 10 year old boy often by means of subtle manipulation? In fact, IIRC, the episode with him running fro political office in Springfield was just another scheme to try and kill Bart.

    Every 1 tend to be obsessive-compulsives. And Sideshow Bob is not Sexual at all. Not intimacy driven or sensual.
    There's no way he's So 1 though; an So 1 wouldn't attemp murder for such a personal and petty reason, not at least without trying to justify their actions as being right (of which Bob never does, he straight up knows he's evil). Being sx first doesn't mean always having to be an intimate person, rather it's more of an intense connection to someone or something, whether it be a relationship with a loved one, or a fixation on hated enemy; the passionate intensity is there.

    That's him.
    I'm inclined to disagree.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Speed Gavroche View Post
    Burn is NOT on the gut triad, he is NOT an instinctive and physical person like 8s are, and someone who wants power is NOT necessary an 8. He is a 5w6 So/Sx, 8 is his point of confortn he's not a true 8.
    I beleive I mad a similar argument of 8 and 5 in regard to Emperor Palpatine in another thread, so I'll decline on this argument.

    ISFJ and So/Sp: routine bonds, not talkative.
    No way in fucking hell is Smithers sx last. The guy is head-over-heels for Burns and would do anything for him. I've noticed that you seem to keep equating the instinctual varients with behaviors even though they're suppose to be rooted in areas of fixation.

    An extrovert? Lol.

    Pure ISTJ.
    I no longer define the E/I dichotomy based on the conventional definition of extrovert/introvert, rather I define it on being esxternally focused of the outer world vs. internally focused of ones old world. Thus you can have an 'extroverted' ISTJ and 'introverted 'ESTJ'. And even if you disagree with me, Skinner does seem for the most part, reasonably outgoing in a subtle manner.

    But I'm still holding to my argument of him having little Fi. He's actually an uncaring asshole sometimes because of it.

    Quote Originally Posted by unsung View Post
    But Smithers never acts or display his feelings, he's boring, bland and a doormat.
    So? Being an Fe dom doesn't mean displaying outward acts of emotions. Fe doms can be boring bland doormats.

    And the reason Sideshow Bob frames Krusty for robbery is because Krusty abused him on the show, and probably partly because he loathed that form of entertainment. When the show became his he abandoned the comedy and read Shakespeare or something like that for the kids.
    That actually begs the question, why didn't he just quit the show?

    Perhaps he may be 1, he does seem to possess a great level of sophistication and well cultured demeanor.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Savage Idealist View Post
    So? Being an Fe dom doesn't mean displaying outward acts of emotions. Fe doms can be boring bland doormats.
    But sx doms rarely are. He's not intense, aggressive, passionate, anything. He seems content courting Burns with his services but never goes beyond that.

    That actually begs the question, why didn't he just quit the show?

    Perhaps he may be 1, he does seem to possess a great level of sophistication and well cultured demeanor.
    I don't know what his type is, I just rejected what you said about him being a sociopath.

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    Quote Originally Posted by unsung View Post
    But sx doms rarely are. He's not intense, aggressive, passionate, anything. He seems content courting Burns with his services but never goes beyond that.
    In that regard, he's probably be so/sx then.

    I don't know what his type is, I just rejected what you said about him being a sociopath.
    I meant sociopath in the loose general terms, not the technical term.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Savage Idealist View Post
    I've noticed that you seem to keep equating the instinctual varients with behaviors even though they're suppose to be rooted in areas of fixation.
    Exactly! He keeps saying I'm not an Sx-dominant because I'm not blunt, bold, aggressive, risk-taking, assertive, confident, or counterphobic! Those are just commonly expressed behaviors of Sx-dominant 6's, but that doesn't make it true of all of them. My area of fixation is in the Sx realm.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hazashin View Post
    Exactly! He keeps saying I'm not an Sx-dominant because I'm not blunt, bold, aggressive, risk-taking, assertive, confident, or counterphobic! Those are just commonly expressed behaviors of Sx-dominant 6's, but that doesn't make it true of all of them. My area of fixation is in the Sx realm.
    Agreed in my case also. The description of the Sx doesn't state anything about behaviors. For example, "The need for independence and emotional expression. The sexual/self-pres subtype differs however in being more intense, more counterphobic. They entertain more dark nihilistic ideas, ideas that most others don’t want to consider," does not describe any behaviors.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Savage Idealist View Post
    In that regard, he's probably be so/sx then.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hazashin View Post
    Exactly! He keeps saying I'm not an Sx-dominant because I'm not blunt, bold, aggressive, risk-taking, assertive, confident, or counterphobic! Those are just commonly expressed behaviors of Sx-dominant 6's, but that doesn't make it true of all of them. My area of fixation is in the Sx realm.


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    Agreed in my case also. The description of the Sx doesn't state anything about behaviors. For example, "The need for independence and emotional expression. The sexual/self-pres subtype differs however in being more intense, more counterphobic. They entertain more dark nihilistic ideas, ideas that most others don’t want to consider," does not describe any behaviors.
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    Lisa is often type as INFJ and 3w4; however this typing is wrong, due to the fact that most people suck at typing. If anyone has an argument for the currently most popular typing, I want to hear it.

    I recently just watched a couple of episodes that focused on Lisa; one where she becomes a vegetarian, and the other where she becomes a Buddhist. In both these episodes she demonstrates a crap ton of Fi, with some Ne; she's an INFP. Also, I think she's 1w2, not 3w4.

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