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    Quote Originally Posted by Marmie Dearest View Post
    Pfft. Everyone knows Hitler is NFJ.
    Nice try, Hitler.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MacGuffin View Post
    You apparently missed part of the definition: "Mysterious and Charismatic"

    Charismatic

    They all kind of sound like damaged Fs to me in a way.
    That's funny considering that you used to apply this label to yourself. Did you change type again?
    Thanks for the laugh.
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    Gosh, the world looks so small from up here on my high horse of menstruation.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Salome View Post
    That's funny considering that you used to apply this label to yourself. Did you change type again?
    Thanks for the laugh.
    Byronic Guitar Hero!

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    Quote Originally Posted by MacGuffin View Post
    You apparently missed part of the definition: "Mysterious and Charismatic"

    Charismatic

    They all kind of sound like damaged Fs to me in a way.
    I agree with that! They look damaged Fs!
    I think a byronic hero could easily be an extremely pessimistic ENFJ with a troubled past... Unhealthy, maybe... There isn't a MBTI type that we could just describe as someone "byronic", the person should have some natural characteristics and get some others along it's life.

    Well, "inteligent" anyone can be, but let's see the other caracteristics:
    - ENFJs are usually very charismatic and educated, I think that's maybe because of their dom Fe.
    - They can be very guarded.
    - They are N, so obsviously they are intuitive.
    - Like all NFs, they can be like "chameleons" and adapt themselves a lot.
    - Unhealthy ENFJs can be very moody.
    - Because of the troubled past confliting with their want to be genuine and to please people, they can have much emotional conflicts, be very self-critical and get introspective. That could give them some "dark" atributes...
    - I think anyone very pessimistic could be cynic...

    It just makes sense to me: "troubled byronic ENFJ"...

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    A strong sense of arrogance
    Any type could posses this.

    High Intelligence and intuition
    Intelligence isn't really type related, intuition mean N of course.

    A troubled past
    Not type related

    Introspective and self-critical
    Introvert, or socially isolated extrovert.

    Mysterious and Charismatic
    This could fit under many different types.

    [QUOTE]Cynicism[QUOTE]

    Iintroversion and thinking, although could fit with other types

    A distaste for social norms
    Probably N

    I'd say that almost any type could be a Byronic Hero, with INTJ being the most likely, and other types coming afterwards, SJ's least likely. although still possible. Also if anyone wants an example of an INFP byronic hero, there's always me.

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    The Byronic hero typically exhibits several of the following traits:

    a strong sense of arrogance
    high level of intelligence and perception
    cunning and able to adapt
    suffering from an unnamed crime
    a troubled past
    sophisticated and educated
    self-critical and introspective
    mysterious, magnetic and charismatic
    struggling with integrity
    power of seduction and sexual attraction
    social and sexual dominance
    emotional conflicts, bipolar tendencies, or moodiness
    a distaste for social institutions and norms
    being an exile, an outcast, or an outlaw
    "dark" attributes not normally associated with a hero
    disrespect of rank and privilege
    jaded, world-weary
    cynicism
    self-destructive behavior


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    a strong sense of arrogance (T? Barely type related)
    high level of intelligence and perception (correlates with, but is not caused by N)
    cunning and able to adapt (likely TP)
    suffering from an unnamed crime (unrelated to type)
    a troubled past (unrelated to type. Obsessing over it = ni or si)
    sophisticated and educated (unrelated to type)
    self-critical and introspective (likely IN)
    mysterious, magnetic and charismatic (mysterious = I?. Magnetic and Charismatic = E and fe? Barely type related)
    struggling with integrity (likely T)
    power of seduction and sexual attraction (fe and se? Barely type related)
    social and sexual dominance (likely J, but barely type related)
    emotional conflicts, bipolar tendencies, or moodiness (F, fi)
    a distaste for social institutions and norms (IN, fi, not SJ)
    being an exile, an outcast, or an outlaw (If it's somehow self imposed, I. Otherwise unrelated to type)
    "dark" attributes not normally associated with a hero (T? Barely type related)
    disrespect of rank and privilege (fi, not SJ)
    jaded, world-weary (likely T, but barely type related)
    cynicism (likely T)
    self-destructive behavior (fi?)

    On the whole, very likely I, almost certain N, likely T. Very likely fi.
    In order of likeliness:
    INTJ (The only type with all 4 markers)
    INFP
    ENTJ, INTP
    INFJ, ENFP
    ENTP
    ENFJ

    Enneagram: 5w4, 4w5, or 4w3.

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    @Emotionalogic - I agree mostly with your list with the exception of struggling with integrity answer. It seems more F or at least equal F and T for different reasons. A strong F may often encounter situations where the only feasible solution or choice involves violating one of their own values and then later on reflect upon their compromise of ethical integrity (probably with a degree of shame.) T's to me seem like they would just get down to the task and if the F functions do turn up they would just suppress them or rationalise them out of existence through stoic and strong logic. F's don't really have this luxury.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Emotionalogic View Post
    INTJ (The only type with all 4 markers)
    Oooh. Now there's a surprise.
    Now Byron is INTJ.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Salomé View Post
    Oooh. Now there's a surprise.
    Now Byron is INTJ.
    I don't know much about him, but I would guess ENFP, like Oscar Wilde. This thread is about Byronic Heros. But then again you've never let simple facts get in the way of insinuating that I only do typology to associate impossibly cool people with my type, thereby assuaging my inferred sense of inadequacy.

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