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    I dunno, Fischer struck me as a neurotic INTJ, the kind of type who dwells on paranoid thinking.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Merkw View Post
    True, but chess is also a game which heavily relies upon tactics, which is would more accurately be described as the realm of STPs.
    Not to derail your thread but a surprising number of people do not know the difference between strategy, logistics and tactics.

    As usual I can think of evidence to support either conclusion as had might have had preference for Si (if primarily relied on the memorization of known strategies) or Ni (if he primarily created new strategies). That being the case I will gladly defer this decision to you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JustDave View Post
    Not to derail your thread but a surprising number of people do not know the difference between strategy, logistics and tactics.
    Indeed. Such irritates me indefinitely. STJs are more logistic, STPs are more into tactics, and NTJs are more strategic.
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    Speaking of this, here is another similarly paranoid individual whom I have had some difficulty typing. Again, definitely IxTx:

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    The Unibomber is an INTP, I think, possibly INTJ. And I'm not just suggesting that because he's sociopath, either. I believe even Keirsey typed him as an INTJ somewhere in his website.

    NTs as a whole, however, are most likely to be the paranoid types, because of their combination of N's imagination and abstract thought and T's skepticism and intellectual independence.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Merkw View Post
    Speaking of this, here is another similarly paranoid individual whom I have had some difficulty typing. Again, definitely IxTx:

    I'm pretty sure he's INTP.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Merkw View Post
    Indeed. Such irritates me indefinitely. STJs are more logistic, STPs are more into tactics, and NTJs are more strategic.
    I concede ISTP is possible. From Wiki:

    "Chess computers are considered superhuman at tactics, but rather spotty at strategy. The fact that computers can dominate the best humans suggests that chess is primarily a tactical game."

    But something about Fischer still says INTJ to me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jae Rae View Post

    But something about Fischer still says INTJ to me.

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    I understand your belief. Although I should not re-iterate my previous point as I cannot defend it, nevertheless I just cannot imagine the stereotypical ISTP playing chess.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jae Rae
    "Chess computers are considered superhuman at tactics, but rather spotty at strategy. The fact that computers can dominate the best humans suggests that chess is primarily a tactical game."
    The thing with chess is that for all the strategizing you do, you'll also need to execute it properly with the proper tactical maneouvers. This is because strategy is abstract and tactics is concrete -- the moves (tactics) represent the strategy.

    Tactics can arise without strategy, -- such as seeing a sudden mating or a forking combination brought on by the opponent's blunder, leading to a win/material advantage-- but the rewards of strategy can not be received without tactics.

    However, strategy defines the grandmaster more, simply because the point of strategizing is to create oppurtunity for such lucrative tactics to occur -- to increase the chances of your opponent making the last miniscule mistake, so that you win, having made the second last miniscule mistake.

    So I'll probably go for INTP or INTJ for Bobby Fischer. I don't see J any more than I see P.

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    I think INTJ should be the final verdict on Fischer's type.
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