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    Bear Grylls is far more entertaining to watch than survivorman...the camera work is a little too over the top dramatic however which distances me from the show more than i would like it to because i can't stop focusing on it.

    However, i'm gonna agree with Randomnity and violaine that Survivorman trumps Bear Grylls - def. more badass!
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    I'm not sure where estp's coming from.

    "...I'm the most impatient person you'll ever meet." Close enough of a quote?

    That's an enneagram 1. e12 sx/so enfp, coming off as an e8, bulldozing fucking everything.

    Survivorman, on the other hand...

    e54 sp/so infp.

    Need an explanation? Guy's the living epitome of sp/so.

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    Quote Originally Posted by candylandjoe View Post
    I'm not sure where estp's coming from.

    "...I'm the most impatient person you'll ever meet." Close enough of a quote?

    That's an enneagram 1. e12 sx/so enfp, coming off as an e8, bulldozing fucking everything.
    I'm not sure where enfp's coming from either. Impatience certainly isn't a strictly enfp trait...if anything I would predict estp's would be more impatient since there's real-life things to get up and go do.

    But both guys are hard to type since you only see them in one environment (a very sensor-oriented one), you don't see their personal life, just the show which is at least partially them "acting", and you mostly don't see them interact with other people at all. The most I would really be confident saying is that Bear is E and survivorman is I.
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    ESTP.

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    old etonian <3
    i'd want to see him in his tails.
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    and begin slitting throats.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Randomnity View Post
    I'm not sure where enfp's coming from either. Impatience certainly isn't a strictly enfp trait...if anything I would predict estp's would be more impatient since there's real-life things to get up and go do.

    But both guys are hard to type since you only see them in one environment (a very sensor-oriented one), you don't see their personal life, just the show which is at least partially them "acting", and you mostly don't see them interact with other people at all. The most I would really be confident saying is that Bear is E and survivorman is I.
    As noted, impatience is a core e1 trait.

    When there aren't others for a subject to interact with, look at how s/he cools.

    Do you think his expressions are more played down or explosive?

    I think that eliminates possibility of a 9 wing.

    When I listen to him tearing into a dead sheep, pulling the heart out, it's almost like he's welcoming the viewer to join in.

    "Come on over, have a bite with me" (implied, not an exact quote). Sounds like a 2 wing, whereas a 7 winger would ask the viewer to dance inside the sheep pelt with him.

    That eliminates possibility of either 7 or 9 wing.

    Moreover, the sx/so e8 is described as the "alpha" fe/male, would be more inclined to stuff the sheep carcass with dynamite,

    whereas Grylls, in my mind, as over the top as he seems, is going through the step-by-step "this is how you don't die" process.

    So really, the argument is whether Grylls is an sx/so e12 enfp or entj, but he resembles istjs I've come across and an enfp uncle, which is why I lean enfp.

    People can't act nearly as convincingly as most on this forum tend to believe.

    I don't think either of them are.

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    I vote ESTP.

    Ray Mears is a survival/bushcraft instructor. He presents things much more realistically, with practical advice and examples instead of risky stunts or whining about how horrible the conditions are.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wv6EjpwF4ZY

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    ESTJ. (I/E difference is the most moderate)

    He's not exactly laid back. SP goofyness... none of that. He's cold and orchestrated, focused on his tasks, detail oriented. No procrastination issues. He's comfortable with targets and routines. Dedicated, diligent, boring.

    Les Stroud is of course more deep and a more interesting person and a much better narrator, Les is an N, bigger picture thinker than Bear. But he's older and can't do all the moves Bear can.. most of Bear's skills are probably from being a UK Special Forces and genetics, but he's about as deep as those little streams he'll get water from to boil then drink.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ajblaise View Post
    ESTJ. (I/E difference is the most moderate)

    He's not exactly laid back. SP goofyness... none of that. He's cold and orchestrated, focused on his tasks, detail oriented. No procrastination issues. He's comfortable with targets and routines. Dedicated, diligent, boring.
    This doesn't sound much the like the man v. wild guy.

    You've emphasized e1 traits, aside from "boring", your most subjective adjective.

    Try adaptable, easily excitable, and scientific.

    Quote Originally Posted by ajblaise View Post
    Les Stroud is of course more deep and a more interesting person and a much better narrator, Les is an N, bigger picture thinker than Bear. But he's older and can't do all the moves Bear can.. most of Bear's skills are probably from being a UK Special Forces and genetics, but he's about as deep as those little streams he'll get water from to boil then drink.
    If anyone is more diligent, detail-oriented, and boring, it's Les.

    Thanks for the insights.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JAVO View Post
    I vote ESTP.

    Ray Mears is a survival/bushcraft instructor. He presents things much more realistically, with practical advice and examples instead of risky stunts or whining about how horrible the conditions are.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wv6EjpwF4ZY
    The guy in your link is clearly an e89. Where is Bear's 9wing?

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