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    You can't be INTJ and Ti. Go read a book on this stuff, if you're so smart. Hint: ESFPs have read books on MBTI. They've actually topped you. What are you going to do about it?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Perch420 View Post
    I'm most likely an INTJ with a well-developed Ti. I don't identify with the INFJ description at all.
    or INTJ with Ni overpowering Te and because introverted function rules you Te, it might look like Ti. or then you just answered the questions in test in a way thats not really true because of some cognitive bias or misinterpreting something in yourself
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    Quote Originally Posted by KDude View Post
    You can't be INTJ and Ti. Go read a book on this stuff, if you're so smart. Hint: ESFPs have read books on MBTI. They've actually topped you. What are you going to do about it?
    What you're saying shows a lack of knowledge of MBTI. All types can use all the functions; it's their preference which determines type. An ESFP medical student uses Si when he/she memorizes information, yes? An ISTJ uses Fe at a family reunion, yes? My functions, in order of strength, are Ti and Ni tied, Ne and Fi tied, Fe and Te tied, Si and Se tied. Strength does not equal preference.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Perch420 View Post
    An ESFP medical student uses Si when he/she memorizes information, yes?
    Actually it would require S and N. S for the facts, N for the relationship between the facts. (Introversion and Extroversion of S and N aren't relevant here.)

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    How would someone use Se to acquire facts? Se is concerned with the physical world, not information, or at least non-sensory information.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Perch420 View Post
    What you're saying shows a lack of knowledge of MBTI. All types can use all the functions; it's their preference which determines type. An ESFP medical student uses Si when he/she memorizes information, yes? An ISTJ uses Fe at a family reunion, yes? My functions, in order of strength, are Ti and Ni tied, Ne and Fi tied, Fe and Te tied, Si and Se tied. Strength does not equal preference.
    Lack of knowledge. Says the Ni - Ti guy. What's the point of discussing knowledge with someone who identifies with two introverted functions? You've actually captured the typological equivalent of "having your head up your ass". If you are an INJ, you have Extroverted Judging. You haven't seemed grow into it, and use Ni defensively, but it's there.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Perch420 View Post
    What you're saying shows a lack of knowledge of MBTI. All types can use all the functions; it's their preference which determines type. An ESFP medical student uses Si when he/she memorizes information, yes? An ISTJ uses Fe at a family reunion, yes? My functions, in order of strength, are Ti and Ni tied, Ne and Fi tied, Fe and Te tied, Si and Se tied. Strength does not equal preference.
    No, this is incorrect. Te does not do the laundry, Fe does not meet your girlfriend's mother.

    The functions are holistic world views which shape your basic perception of the world. They are not measures of intelligence, or even measures of interests, necessarily.

    For example, as someone who prefers Ne/Si, I create new possibilities from past experience and collected detail. Someone who prefers Se/Ni digs into the various possible implications of what is presently there.

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    If you all didn't joke for #587 post, then I have to question the main offender's intelligence.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Marmie Dearest View Post
    No, this is incorrect. Te does not do the laundry, Fe does not meet your girlfriend's mother.

    The functions are holistic world views which shape your basic perception of the world.
    Of course the functions do not actually do the task. They're inanimate concepts, so that would be silly.

    The phrase was basically "an XXXX uses Yw when doing Z" and I don't see how this is wrong.

    How are all the cognitive functions about worldviews? And if it is basically about perception, then why can't there be perception shifts in varying situations?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Perch420 View Post
    An ESFP medical student uses Si when he/she memorizes information, yes?
    not really. Si is basically perceiving your personal impressions of Se, while Se is working on unconscious level. also its about perceiving the impressions about what has already happened and comparing the current situation to impressions of past situations.

    Si doesent equal memory.
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