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    Quote Originally Posted by Elfboy View Post
    well, let's see, the S is rather obvious (I mean, your stereotypical idiotic character is certainly not going to be an N) as far as EFP is concerned, Es are considered less intellligent because they talk more and seem to think less. Feelers are considered less intelligent than Thinkers because they're less analytical and Ps are considered less intelligent because they are more impulsive (if anything, the opposite might be true. perceivers are more adapt at thinking and doing at the same time. this necessetates being able to process information quicker than a J would have to. this is simply a speculation though)
    I hope you are talking about how the myth came to be and not making a statement here.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Perch420 View Post
    Nobody is saying that ALL of one group is something. Members of certain groups have PREDISPOSITIONS to CERTAIN TRAITS. Not all INTJs are "evil", obviously, but they are more likely than, say, ESFPs, to put less of an emphasis on the ethical implications of their plans and ideas. Most are driven and their ambitions tend to overpower them and make them "power hungry". All of this could be considered "evil". INTJs are more likely to have "evil" qualities than ESFPs. Would you disagree? Would you say that an INTP has just as much of an ability to preform in front of a crowd than an ESFP? This whole debate is incredibly stupid.
    Um, yes... a great deal of fictitious 'evil' characters would/could be considered INTJ; that was my little joke.

    And yes this debate is a bit stupid, but such is life. What is even more stupid is that people are taking it seriously.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Perch420 View Post
    Nobody is saying that ALL of one group is something. Members of certain groups have PREDISPOSITIONS to CERTAIN TRAITS. Not all INTJs are "evil", obviously, but they are more likely than, say, ESFPs, to put less of an emphasis on the ethical implications of their plans and ideas. Most are driven and their ambitions tend to overpower them and make them "power hungry". All of this could be considered "evil". INTJs are more likely to have "evil" qualities than ESFPs. Would you disagree? Would you say that an INTP has just as much of an ability to preform in front of a crowd than an ESFP? This whole debate is incredibly stupid.
    INTJs are less likely to consider ethical implications than ESFPs.
    INTPs are less likely to be public speakers than ESFPs.
    ESFPs are not less likely to be intelligent than INTs.

    It is pretty stupid indeed. Don't overstep the boundaries of MBTI.

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    Quote Originally Posted by unsung View Post
    I hope you are talking about how the myth came to be and not making a statement here.
    I am talking about how the myth came to be.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Litvyak View Post
    INTJs are less likely to consider ethical implications than ESFPs.
    INTPs are less likely to be public speakers than ESFPs.
    ESFPs are not less likely to be intelligent than INTs.

    It is pretty stupid indeed. Don't overstep the boundaries of MBTI.
    I disagree with the last one. not that ESFPs are likely to be stupid so much as NTJs are likely to be extremely intelligent.

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    I wish there was a MBTI Myth Busters with hosts with big moustaches and all that. Let's blow that to smithereens.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Elfboy View Post
    NTJs are likely to be extremely intelligent.
    NTJs are more likely to show off with their intelligence.
    NTJs also prefer topics most of us consider to be "intellectual", yet completely detached from the real world.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Litvyak View Post
    INTJs are less likely to consider ethical implications than ESFPs.
    INTPs are less likely to be public speakers than ESFPs.
    ESFPs are not less likely to be intelligent than INTs.

    It is pretty stupid indeed. Don't overstep the boundaries of MBTI.
    Yes they are. Are you honestly saying that the average IQ of all the ESFPs in the world is the same as the average IQ of all the INTJs or INTPs?

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    ^ Well if we are going IQ why not ask the ESFP on the forum who is a mensa member? She probably won't answer though. She hasn't been on for a while.

    Most ESFPs will not care about intelligence so they are less likely to adhere themselves to critical thinking challenges. This will include taking IQ tests seriously. It doesn't mean they are more incapable of doing so then intelligence obsessed INTs who try their hardest to look as intellectually challenging as possible. The case is it will be far more difficult to get an accurate understanding of an ESFPs critical thinking skills than it is an INT's critical thinking skills.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wolfy View Post
    I wish there was a MBTI Myth Busters with hosts with big moustaches and all that. Let's blow that to smithereens.
    That sounds like a spectacularly boring show.

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