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    Default The Wise Old Master's Type

    Please type the stereotypical Wise Old Master. The characters I am thinking of (Yoda, Mr. Miyagi, Splinter, Wilson from Home Improvement) are basically mass media portrayals of Jung's Senex.


    My hunch is all of them are either INTP or INFP (Yoda) but I would like to hear your opinions.

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    INFJ, INTJ, INFP, and INTP (all INxx types), depending on the specific "subtype" of wise old master, if you will.
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    I've read that INFJs tend to be the "mystical" wise old man, much like Merlin, according to Personality Type.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JustDave View Post
    Please type the stereotypical Wise Old Master. The characters I am thinking of (Yoda, Mr. Miyagi, Splinter, Wilson from Home Improvement) are basically mass media portrayals of Jung's Senex.
    They are more cliches, than anything -- because we don't really know anyone who acts so one-sidedly in our culture.

    What they seem to be is the living embodiment of Ni, without any other functions there to flavor and direct the inner perception.

    The MBTI types are more complex than that, in real life. We have two main functions (one perceiving, one judging), plus all the others impacting our choices.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jennifer View Post
    They are more cliches, than anything -- because we don't really know anyone who acts so one-sidedly in our culture.

    What they seem to be is the living embodiment of Ni, without any other functions there to flavor and direct the inner perception.
    Yes. In Yoda's place, for example, I'd have turned mad from loneliness, from having nobody to talk to, nobody to share my thoughts with, nobody to exchange feelings with, and so on. By the time Luke arrived, I'd have been talking to trees or something - and they'd have been answering back, too

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    INFJ seems to fit most of the "wise old men" I've seen, which isn't that many.

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    Agreed.. there is an element of one sidedness that makes it difficult to type stereotypes...

    It perhaps depends how ready they are to dispense the wisdom, and whether they are friendly or more distant.

    Is not Gandalf meant to be more NT than NF for example... (perhaps even INTJ)?

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    A wise type? Well you could go for ENTP. Least that way you get a wise ass
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jennifer View Post
    What they seem to be is the living embodiment of Ni, without any other functions there to flavor and direct the inner perception.
    Why, thanks.

    You're really helping make us INxJ's look good, you know?

    I do seem to make my better decisions when I manage to distance Ni from other perceptions and judgments, come to think of it...

    That said, I would think INTJ more than INFJ... it's the Fi, and accompanying unconcern with other's feelings towards themselves as much as what they actually need (presuming they develop the Fi to a certain point).

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    My hunch was most of the characters mentioned in the OP would have been Rationals but the consensus seems to be that they are Idealists.

    Either way thanks for your input.

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