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    Quote Originally Posted by Aleksei View Post
    The way he pined after Lily, I seriously doubt it. A 5w4 would have been sad his beloved ran off with his enemy, but moved on. He stalked her right up to her death.
    So true. Fours long for what they lost. He totally a 4w5 sx/ sp.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aleksei View Post
    The way he pined after Lily, I seriously doubt it. A 5w4 would have been sad his beloved ran off with his enemy, but moved on. He stalked her right up to her death.
    So true. Fours long for what they lost. He totally a 4w5 sx/ sp.
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    Death must be so beautiful. To lie in the soft brown earth, with the grasses waving above one's head, and listen to silence. To have no yesterday, and no to-morrow. To forget time, to forgive life, to be at peace."
    — Sylvia Plath (The Bell Jar)

    "Remember, remember, this is now, and now, and now. Live it, feel it, cling to it. I want to become acutely aware of all I’ve taken for granted."
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aleksei View Post
    Eli Loker (Lie to Me, ENFP)
    Severus Snape (Harry Potter, INTJ)
    Luna Lovegood (Harry Potter, INFP)
    Edward Cullen (Twilight, INTJ)
    Davy Jones (Pirates of the Caribbean, INFP)
    Kurt Cobain (ISFP)
    I don't see how Eli Loker is an 4w5.:confused: I don't relate or act like him. I'm a 4w5 enfp. He must be social variant.
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    Death must be so beautiful. To lie in the soft brown earth, with the grasses waving above one's head, and listen to silence. To have no yesterday, and no to-morrow. To forget time, to forgive life, to be at peace."
    — Sylvia Plath (The Bell Jar)

    "Remember, remember, this is now, and now, and now. Live it, feel it, cling to it. I want to become acutely aware of all I’ve taken for granted."
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    From a list in my enneagram book:
    4w5

    Virginia Woolf
    Edgar Allen Poe
    Anne Rice
    Ingmar Bergman
    D. H. Lawrence
    Yukio Mishima
    J. D. Salinger
    Johnny Depp
    Bob Dylan
    Joni Mitchell
    Saul Steineberg
    Soren Kierkegaard
    Hermann Hesse
    William Blake
    Laura Wingfield (character from Tennesse Williams' play The Glass Menagerie. Tennesse himself is a 4w3)

    I suspect that Leonard Cohen (who has been shown to be a 4) may also have a 5 wing. Cohen didn't really live a conventional life, and seemed to be more introverted and depressed than a 4w3, in my opinion.

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    For fictional characters, how about Lydia Deetz (Beetlejuice), Lemony Snicket (the character, not the author, A Series of Unfortunate Events) and Holden Caulfield (The Catcher in the Rye)?

    As for celebrities, I'm guessing, say, Bill Watterson of Calvin and Hobbes fame. In addition to being a sharp cultural critic, he's also notoriously reclusive.

    Quote Originally Posted by Aleksei View Post
    Luna Lovegood (Harry Potter, INFP)
    Luna? I think she's too placid to be a Four; I'm guessing a Nine.

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    I'm not sure about Caulfield. Personally, I get the image of some kind of pissed off ISTP or INTP 5w6 or 6w5.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KDude View Post
    I'm not sure about Caulfield. Personally, I get the image of some kind of pissed off ISTP or INTP 5w6 or 6w5.
    I could see 5w4, too.

    But then again it's been years since I've read it.


    As far as Amelie is concerned... 4w5?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aleksei View Post
    Eli Loker (Lie to Me, ENFP)
    Severus Snape (Harry Potter, INTJ)
    Luna Lovegood (Harry Potter, INFP)
    Edward Cullen (Twilight, INTJ)
    Davy Jones (Pirates of the Caribbean, INFP)
    Kurt Cobain (ISFP)
    Edward Cullen: 3w4
    Kurt Cobain: 5w4
    Davy Jones: don't really know, but clearly not a 4

    Amélie Poulain is more proabably a 9.

    Famous 4w5s in my mind:

    Heath Ledger
    Marilyn Manson
    Keats
    Beaudelaire
    Becca (Californication)
    Drusilla (BTVS)
    Lidya (Beetlejuice)
    Sidney (Scream)
    EsTP 6w7 Sx/Sp

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    I'm not sure about Edward Cullen, but I would actually lean towards Bella being the 4w5.
    "I don't know a perfect person.
    I only know flawed people who are still worth loving."
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    I guess Emily Brönte is a 4w5 too...

    Oh, and Robert Smith from The Cure.

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