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    Quote Originally Posted by KDude View Post
    I left the SP temperment because I felt I was too idealistic
    You made a big mistake thinking of your type in terms of temperament. Frankly, ISFPs don't really belong in the Artisan temperament group -- most are Healers.
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    Not just in terms of temperment. I'm different than Stepho, Jeffster, Wolfy, Blackcat, Quinlan, etc.. (of course, they're all different from each other too.. I'm just saying that I'm not very Se like they are. I haven't "enjoyed the moment" since Aug. 18, 1986).

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    I think Patrick Jane shifted into his shadow -- transformed from an ENTP to an INTJ after his family was murdered.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aleksei View Post
    There are plenty of villainous ENFPs out there -- Anakin is just not one of them (not that he's really villainous anyway). Every skill Anakin has is Se-derived; he's a master mechanic, an ace pilot, and a swordsman able to take on an army single-handedly.
    Plus he's a daredevil and risk-taker. Definite Se.
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    Quote Originally Posted by KDude View Post
    Any characters that coincidentally fall into shadow behavior?

    Commodus-ENTJ/ISFP
    Sarah Connor-ISFP/ENTJ
    Anakin Skywalker-ENFP/ISTJ
    Nice call on these three. I had never even really considered it from this angle before, but it's definitely there.
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    Anakin is not a goddamn ENFP.
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    Yeah. He's an ENFP

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    ^ i remember when you used to be an interesting poster :/


    anyway, yeah, i dunno about anakin. he was supposed to be so good at all those skills because of his off-the-charts midichlorian count, wasn't he?

    stuff from the wiki... i'd quote it, but italicized walls of text suck. anyway:

    "As a young adult, Skywalker developed as an arrogant and somewhat socially awkward boy, doubtless in part because of his rapid transition from a scrapyard slave to rising star of the Jedi Order. His natural abilities placed him leaps and bounds above his peers which fed his ego and caused him to distance himself from other learners his age. He frequently showed off, chafed against authority, and displayed little respect for Kenobi, whom he partially viewed as inferior. Despite this perception, he stated that Kenobi was like a father to him, and claimed that Kenobi had the wisdom of Master Yoda and the power of Master Windu. This praise, however, may have been just another expression of Skywalker's arrogance, as he amended that he himself was "beyond" Kenobi in many ways, and felt Kenobi was holding him back from his true potential. His relationship with his master remained complicated and contradictory, partially due to Kenobi's doubts about whether he had the ability to train Skywalker, something the boy did not need, especially during that critical time in his life. Frustrated, Skywalker would turn to another mentor for advice: Supreme Chancellor Palpatine.

    As a young boy, Skywalker was thoughtful and intelligent. He was friendly and easily got along with others despite his status as a slave. He also had a special place in his heart for his mother, whom he constantly built inventions to sell or to use to lighten her workload. At the coming of the Jedi, he was both helpful and generous; doing all that he could to help them off-planet, risking his life at the podrace as well as giving them the sizable reward money which he and his mother would have had use for. Though lovable, he also was one to carry grudges and was vengeful, but he commonly held these two traits in check. He also hated being treated unjustly or being wrongly accused. He was fiercely loyal, doing anything to keep those he was close to from harm, at any cost. His only price for this dedication was loyalty in return.

    His separation from his mother was the hardest thing he'd ever done, and it still hurt him for years. Because of his fear of losing even more friends in such a manner, he kept to himself, fiddling around with his only friends, the Temple droids. During this, however, he grew especially close to Kenobi, considering him a father and a role model. Due to his sudden escalation from slave to being known as the "Chosen One" and the rising star of the Jedi Order, pride and arrogance set in. He grew cocky, self-appreciating, and he grew to hate being reprimanded or lectured.

    He was naturally honest and despised lying and deception, and especially hated politics, correctly considering most politicians to be greedy and self-conceited. Kenobi's continual self-consciousness when it came to Skywalker hurt the boy, who at times wasn't sure whether Kenobi liked him, something his heart craved. Therefore, he turned to a more complimenting, comforting source: Palpatine.

    His yearning to be loved, as well as appreciated, came out in his devotion and secret marriage to Amidala, one of the only three people he ever thought appreciated or cared for him. As his fame grew, he became more and more arrogant, and he knew that he was one of the best Jedi of the Order, believing that he could easily best any Jedi blindfolded with his lightsaber tied behind his back. This coupled with his frustration at his perceived injustice at being kept at the rank of Jedi Knight made him more and more bitter and distrustful of the Jedi Council. His belief in them was shattered more and more as Skywalker's closest friend, Palpatine, swayed him from trusting them. Slowly, his bond with everyone except the Chancellor was completely shaken and broken, even that of his wife when he assumed her betrayal of him. Born out of this conflict was the Dark Lord of the Sith, Darth Vader."

    this shadow stuff is cool. i go ISTJ when i'm hyper stressed out.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aleksei View Post
    You made a big mistake thinking of your type in terms of temperament. Frankly, ISFPs don't really belong in the Artisan temperament group -- most are Healers.
    You could make a similar argument that ISTPs don't really belong in the Artisan termperament group -- most are architects. It seems that ISFP and ISTP are separated from all of the rest of the sensors!

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    Fight Club's narrator=INFJ/ ESTP shadow=Tyler Durden

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