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    Quote Originally Posted by simulatedworld View Post
    Jaguar:

    You have a fine point. He seems fairly borderline...we're just speculating. If he wasn't borderline we probably wouldn't be having this discussion in the first place.

    Today on TV I saw an interview where he said: "I believe in perfection. And we try to reach for that in everything we do."

    Now that could just be something his publicist told him to say, but it does sound pretty INFP.
    I saw the same interview you did. I recognize those exact words.

    In addition, that is not the only interview where M.J. called himself a perfectionist.
    I've heard him say that at least 10 times over the decades.
    He wanted to outdo anyone and anything that had ever been done.
    He was a major innovator.
    It was John Landis, who directed the thriller video, who spoke so much about Jackson being into transformation and innovation.
    A strong S is not into innovation, they would be into what is conventional.
    What was so "conventional" about Jackson?
    Not much.

    And don't anyone give me this ISFP/INFP are different.
    That's MBTI brain-washed bullshit.
    There are thousands if not hundreds of thousands of possible types--not just 16.
    Any intelligent person knows that, especially an alleged ENTP like yourself,
    who knows there are endless possibilities, and alternative theories to be had.

    Frankly, I think Jackson probably had one hell of a unique function order.
    Certainly not any order that would come out of the MBTI cereal box.

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    ^ Fair enough. I'd still say that of the 16 arbitrarily imagined archetypes, though, he falls closest to either INFP or ISFP.
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    Aw, I don't know what type he is. But I feel so bad for him! I wish I knew him when he was alive and we would be best buddies and I'd heal him from his pains, whatever they may be!

    To add to the topic:

    Maybe for Jackson his music, no matter what form it took(whether abstract or concrete) was just a form of therapy for him? Maybe performing was just a way for him to engage a different character and allowed him to disassociate, if for a while, with the bitter, cold reality? I mean every eccentricity of his was done for purposes of escaping reality, right? Never land ranch? Sounds very intuitive to me. But I don't really know, I don't like to generalize. But for purposes of this thread, I'm inclined to believe he was INFP. Who knows though? Maybe this has nothing to do with type, but more with personality.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jaguar View Post
    A strong S is not into innovation, they would be into what is conventional.
    Nah. That's SJs, not SPs.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jaguar View Post
    I saw the same interview you did. I recognize those exact words.

    In addition, that is not the only interview where M.J. called himself a perfectionist.
    I've heard him say that at least 10 times over the decades.
    He wanted to outdo anyone and anything that had ever been done.
    He was a major innovator.
    It was John Landis, who directed the thriller video, who spoke so much about Jackson being into transformation and innovation.
    A strong S is not into innovation, they would be into what is conventional.
    What was so "conventional" about Jackson?
    Not much.

    And don't anyone give me this ISFP/INFP are different.
    That's MBTI brain-washed bullshit.
    There are thousands if not hundreds of thousands of possible types--not just 16.
    Any intelligent person knows that, especially an alleged ENTP like yourself,
    who knows there are endless possibilities, and alternative theories to be had.

    Frankly, I think Jackson probably had one hell of a unique function order.
    Certainly not any order that would come out of the MBTI cereal box.
    That may be true but the whole point of this thread is to specualte on witch of these cereal box types he is. Were all aware its a barstool discussion, you dont have to remind us that ninjas never fought dinosours, we know, but we like to discuss who would win just for the fun of it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dotdalidot View Post
    Maybe for Jackson his music, no matter what form it took(whether abstract or concrete) was just a form of therapy for him? Maybe performing was just a way for him to engage a different character and allowed him to disassociate, if for a while, with the bitter, cold reality? I mean every eccentricity of his was done for purposes of escaping reality, right?
    Considering his childhood, who wouldn't want to escape?
    His father was an abusive SOB.
    Beat the kids all the time.
    Someone should have kicked his father's ass, ages ago.
    I can't stand people who beat kids.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jaguar View Post
    Considering his childhood, who wouldn't want to escape?
    His father was an abusive SOB.
    Beat the kids all the time.
    Someone should have kicked his father's ass, ages ago.
    I can't stand people who beat kids.
    Ugh! I know me too. That's why I feel so bad for him I wish I could give him a hug. If I was the ass kicking type of person I probably would. :steam:

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    Quote Originally Posted by dotdalidot View Post
    Maybe for Jackson his music, no matter what form it took(whether abstract or concrete) was just a form of therapy for him? Maybe performing was just a way for him to engage a different character and allowed him to disassociate, if for a while, with the bitter, cold reality? I mean every eccentricity of his was done for purposes of escaping reality, right? Never land ranch? Sounds very intuitive to me. But I don't really know, I don't like to generalize. But for purposes of this thread, I'm inclined to believe he was INFP. Who knows though? Maybe this has nothing to do with type, but more with personality.
    Yeah, that's my argument too.

    Quote Originally Posted by Jaguar View Post
    Considering his childhood, who wouldn't want to escape?
    His father was an abusive SOB.
    Beat the kids all the time.
    Someone should have kicked his father's ass, ages ago.
    I can't stand people who beat kids.
    Bastard didn't get anything from Michael's will, thank goodness.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jaguar View Post
    I saw the same interview you did. I recognize those exact words.

    In addition, that is not the only interview where M.J. called himself a perfectionist.
    I've heard him say that at least 10 times over the decades.
    He wanted to outdo anyone and anything that had ever been done.
    He was a major innovator.
    It was John Landis, who directed the thriller video, who spoke so much about Jackson being into transformation and innovation.
    A strong S is not into innovation, they would be into what is conventional.
    What was so "conventional" about Jackson?
    Not much.

    And don't anyone give me this ISFP/INFP are different.
    That's MBTI brain-washed bullshit.
    There are thousands if not hundreds of thousands of possible types--not just 16.
    Any intelligent person knows that, especially an alleged ENTP like yourself,
    who knows there are endless possibilities, and alternative theories to be had.

    Frankly, I think Jackson probably had one hell of a unique function order.
    Certainly not any order that would come out of the MBTI cereal box.
    Yeah, good point. There are actually thousands of types (not just 16), based on function order.

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